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Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
« on: December 09, 2013, 03:10:45 PM »
This probably won't be a big hit but in my opinion it would be cool if you could add the tropical filters on the fighters mentioned above for N. Africa or Med Special events maps. I know the Volkes filter used on the Spits supposedly affected performance but it would be a nice little piece of immersive eye candy if nothing else for
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Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2013, 03:39:14 PM »
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Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2013, 03:48:26 PM »
Performance altering things like that cannot be done, per Pyro many years ago.  We'd need new versions added to accomplish it.

(Pyro's information came in reference to making Spitfire wing tips a hangar option)
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Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2013, 03:56:20 PM »
Performance altering things like that cannot be done, per Pyro many years ago.  We'd need new versions added to accomplish it.

(Pyro's information came in reference to making Spitfire wing tips a hangar option)

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Don't both the bazooka tubes and the Luftwaffe rocket tubes affect performance?

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Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2013, 05:09:56 PM »
Yes, but only in the same way that a bomb, or any other form of rockets do. They add drag and weight only, they don't actually change the flight model.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2013, 05:22:44 PM »
Yes, but only in the same way that a bomb, or any other form of rockets do. They add drag and weight only, they don't actually change the flight model.

Drag and weight affects performance the filters add drag and weight in the same manner. Other than that they do not affect flight characteristics any more than a bazooka tube.
Their function was to keep sand out of the engine nothing more.

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Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2013, 06:06:26 PM »
If Shifty wants it....I'm game.

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Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2013, 06:09:24 PM »
Drag and weight affects performance the filters add drag and weight in the same manner. Other than that they do not affect flight characteristics any more than a bazooka tube.
Their function was to keep sand out of the engine nothing more.

I never said a word about the filters being impossible, I just answered your question.


But wouldn't the filter reduce airflow to some degree?
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Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2013, 06:53:03 PM »
spit V already flies like it has the filters choking it's intake tract.

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Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2013, 06:55:28 PM »
But wouldn't the filter reduce airflow to some degree?

Marginally at best I would think. Not 100% sure though. From what I've read the Volkes filter added weight and drag to the Spitfire Vs that is what affected the performance.
The filters on the 109s were more compact and fit on the actual airscoop itself.

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Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2013, 07:28:43 PM »
I just know there's precedent of filters constricting airflow to the point of performance degradation in tanks, and aircraft engines, being tuned for much higher power and being run much harder would likely be more adversely affected.
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Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2013, 09:57:58 PM »
There's even a bigger precedent for sand.  ;)

None of the aircraft I ever worked on needed tropical filters so I really couldn't say. The only prop planes I worked on had Continental reciprocating engines. I do know hot weather affected the performance of our A-10s during the Arizona summers. If you looked at an F-111 wrong that caused all kinds of problems.

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Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2013, 03:33:57 PM »
If we had a dessert map (which others and myself have ask for) the filter would make since. Also we could use the dessert skins. Also, if we had a winter map, we could use the winter skins and perhaps mufflers (for the planes and our selves).
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Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2013, 08:24:20 PM »
If we had a dessert map (which others and myself have ask for) the filter would make since. Also we could use the dessert skins.




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Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2013, 11:45:07 AM »
The Hurricane MK IID has the desert filter added.
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