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Offline warhed

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Re: New information layer found in DNA
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2013, 07:22:30 PM »
Not sure if you're plain stupid or didn't read the article you posted:


I know you're from New Zealand so English isn't your first language, but perhaps it is you who needs to read it more closely?   :neener:
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Re: New information layer found in DNA
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2013, 07:36:52 PM »

I hope not.....

but this is one step closer to DNA coding....or should I say "quaying the population"....


what does quaying mean?  :huh

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Re: New information layer found in DNA
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2013, 07:37:59 PM »
only on the Aces High BBS can you actually find people dumb enough to defend Monsanto  :rofl  :rofl

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Re: New information layer found in DNA
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2013, 08:25:29 PM »
well considering they helped create life as we know it, i think they are not that bad.

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Re: New information layer found in DNA
« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2013, 10:04:58 PM »
It's kind of like going in and using a terminal instead of a somewhat-training-wheelsy and less powerful GUI, but not actually knowing thoroughly how to use the terminal. Maybe, I don't know. I'm not great with text based user interfaces but I know it's easy to screw stuff up if you're to ambitious.

The artificial methods that chemists have of doing things that nature does... doing the work of enzymes and such with high heats, acids or bases, and toxic metals... are just not as well suited. They're clunky, imprecise, time consuming, and easily give you results that you certainly were not looking for. What nature is capable of doing with strings of amino acids is fairly roundabout and Rube-Goldberg-esque, but also takes place under amazingly gentle conditions and, more interestingly, is amazingly precise.

What's more, nature builds these things exactly how they're meant to be built without unintentionally screwing up things it didn't know was there. Obviously we have a long way to go in that department, and we should probably do a bit more poking around before we start blindly bulling around in things we don't understand.
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Re: New information layer found in DNA
« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2013, 12:38:14 AM »
the thing is that Schneider did use monsants seeds.  he even admitted to it in his explanation.  even by his own tests his crop had over 50% of their seeds.

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But there are only two ways he could have got monsanto seeds, brought them or had them cross-pollinate / blow onto his land. Monsanto say he didn't buy them. So monsanto effective contaminated his crops, his seeds then try to clean him out over it.

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Re: New information layer found in DNA
« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2013, 12:39:04 AM »
I know you're from New Zealand so English isn't your first language, but perhaps it is you who needs to read it more closely?   :neener:

ah huh

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And there are plenty of cases — including Schmeiser's — in which the company has overreached, engaged in raw intimidation, and made accusations that turned out not to be backed up by evidence.

I'm sure they're really nice people warhed.
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Re: New information layer found in DNA
« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2013, 01:27:17 AM »
DNA is a myth :old:

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Re: New information layer found in DNA
« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2013, 01:53:45 AM »
But there are only two ways he could have got monsanto seeds, brought them or had them cross-pollinate / blow onto his land. Monsanto say he didn't buy them. So monsanto effective contaminated his crops, his seeds then try to clean him out over it.

"Schmeiser had an explanation. As an experiment, he'd actually sprayed Roundup on about three acres of the field that was closest to a neighbor's Roundup Ready canola. Many plants survived the spraying, showing that they contained Monsanto's resistance gene — and when Schmeiser's hired hand harvested the field, months later, he kept seed from that part of the field and used it for planting the next year."

vulcan did you actually read the link?  schmeiser wasnt an innocent farmer.

"This convinced the judge that Schmeiser intentionally planted Roundup Ready canola. Schmeiser appealed. The Canadian Supreme Court that Schmeiser had violated Monsanto's patent, but had obtained no benefit by doing so, so he didn't owe Monsanto any money. (For more details on all this, you can read the judge's . contains other documents.)"


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Re: New information layer found in DNA
« Reply #39 on: December 20, 2013, 03:27:19 AM »
what does quaying mean?  :huh

placing people in "statuses"

IE "Predator" "prey" "neutral"

for instance "Bikers" would be in the "predator" status
while a Bank manager would be in the "prey" status
an old woman in a nursing home would be in "neutral"

this is how prison systems work.

 

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Re: New information layer found in DNA
« Reply #40 on: December 20, 2013, 08:47:53 AM »
interesting thing about farming with round-up is that many weeds are building up a resistance to the chemical.  really, over a short period time.  Nature is one tough sob and clogging up one enzyme will not stop her!

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Re: New information layer found in DNA
« Reply #41 on: December 20, 2013, 11:30:13 AM »
ah huh

I'm sure they're really nice people warhed.

I said they aren't evil.   Like most companies in this country they want to protect their patents and research, there's no malicious intent. 
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Re: New information layer found in DNA
« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2013, 11:42:49 AM »
for instance "Bikers" would be in the "predator" status
while a Bank manager would be in the "prey" status
I'd have to say that's a pretty mixed up view of the world
None of that is based on genetics anyway

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Re: New information layer found in DNA
« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2013, 11:54:44 AM »
I'd have to say that's a pretty mixed up view of the world
None of that is based on genetics anyway

I would say it is very messed up....

its the same as racial profiling....and everyone (except of course the ones actually in charge) in this whole world are victims of it.

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Re: New information layer found in DNA
« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2013, 11:57:17 AM »
Gibberish Ink

I am awesome because of genetics :old:
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