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Pork the Ords for Perks
« on: December 20, 2013, 09:41:01 AM »

   I am suggesting a change in the game dynamic to slow down the fun killing bomber streams. (Hordes)

   All players (or Most) need and want more Fighter Points. If killing an Ord Bunker would earn them fighter points then more players would do a few runs before they returned to their furballs. This also should take more bombers out of the sky and put them in fighters. Some would GV instead of course and that would be better for the GV crowd too.

   Fighter points would be awarded whether killed with a bomber, gv  or fighter.

   Give them Points and they will fly if just to auger a few 262s and try some different rides.  :airplane:
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Re: Pork the Ords for Perks
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2013, 09:54:25 AM »
It already happens that way. You get perks for taking ord bunkers down. I'm not sure if its higher if your in attack mode or not but you do get perks.

In a related subject I always thought bombers that still had bombs on board when shot down should count for more perks than a empty one.

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Re: Pork the Ords for Perks
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2013, 09:56:59 AM »
  All players (or Most) need and want more Fighter Points. If killing an Ord Bunker would earn them fighter points (...)


It does.

Fly a fighter or fighter/attacker, and every perk you get will be a fighter perk, no matter what your scoring mode is or if you destroyed a plane, a tank, or an object.


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   I am suggesting a change in the game dynamic to slow down the fun killing bomber streams. (Hordes)
(...) This also should take more bombers out of the sky and put them in fighters.

Most smash and grab hordes are mostly consisting of fighters and attackers, not bombers.  There aren't that much level bombers around, and 'replacing' the relatively slow paced buffs with just more suicide Jabos isn't going to improve anything either.
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Re: Pork the Ords for Perks
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2013, 10:11:52 AM »
It already happens that way. You get perks for taking ord bunkers down. I'm not sure if its higher if your in attack mode or not but you do get perks.

In a related subject I always thought bombers that still had bombs on board when shot down should count for more perks than a empty one.

   I was reading 200 the other day and someone let bombers rtb because they had already dropped.

It does.

Fly a fighter or fighter/attacker, and every perk you get will be a fighter perk, no matter what your scoring mode is or if you destroyed a plane, a tank, or an object.


And by the way:

Most smash and grab hordes are mostly consisting of fighters and attackers, not bombers.  There aren't that much level bombers around, and 'replacing' the relatively slow paced buffs with just more suicide Jabos isn't going to improve anything either.

    I guess my wish would be to attract more players to attack the enemies front line ords. If you already get fighter points for Bunkers increase the amount and get the word out. Bombing has become too precise and unrealistic for the time period. If we had weather that would reduce visability and ceiling it would be a different story.
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Re: Pork the Ords for Perks
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2013, 10:17:02 AM »
  I was reading 200 the other day and someone let bombers rtb because they had already dropped.
    I guess my wish would be to attract more players to attack the enemies front line ords. If you already get fighter points for Bunkers increase the amount and get the word out. Bombing has become too precise and unrealistic for the time period. If we had weather that would reduce visability and ceiling it would be a different story.

I would almost bet any amount that most ords/dar porking (and probably most VH killing on airfields as well) is already done by fighters, not bombers. A fighter is much faster and much more effective at doing so, that's why you see them doing it much more in the MA.
When you see someone type "I'm going to pork ords at AXX" to take pressure from own base under attack, you can almost count on him upping a Jug or 51 and racing to the target and not going to spend his time climbing in a B-26.


Bombing has become too precise and unrealistic for the time period. If we had weather that would reduce visability and ceiling it would be a different story.

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Re: Pork the Ords for Perks
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2013, 01:12:57 PM »
   I was reading 200 the other day and someone let bombers rtb because they had already dropped.
    I guess my wish would be to attract more players to attack the enemies front line ords. If you already get fighter points for Bunkers increase the amount and get the word out. Bombing has become too precise and unrealistic for the time period. If we had weather that would reduce visability and ceiling it would be a different story.

i have many times called on let bombers rtb because they already dropped.  but that is only because either there's more bombers on the way or we need to kill some fighters to save the base.

as for weather and visibility we already know what happened when dallas got snowed in but in ww2 airplanes didnt fly in poor weather or low visibility.  gonna go and speculate because they couldnt see anything, but that is just a guess.


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Re: Pork the Ords for Perks
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2013, 08:38:37 PM »
everyone want this now days

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Re: Pork the Ords for Perks
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2013, 10:47:01 PM »
Just up something with a high ENY...  Doesn't have to be purty as long as the job gets done...
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Re: Pork the Ords for Perks
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2013, 10:23:02 AM »
If I went to a field to attack it and only downed the ords, I would be ashamed.

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Re: Pork the Ords for Perks
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2013, 01:46:03 PM »
Just another clarification: The amount of perks you get for destroying objects is the same in all fighters, as they all have an OBJ rating of 10 (other modifiers still apply)
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Re: Pork the Ords for Perks
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2013, 04:16:32 PM »
Today, in the span of one hour and two Jug flights, I killed the ord bunkers at 4 small fields and one medium field. Those 12 ammo bunkers shut down virtually every base on both the Bish and Knight front lines. Sad thing was, not a single aircraft upped out of any of those five bases to try and stop me. Couple wirbs and 88s but not a single aircraft.
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Re: Pork the Ords for Perks
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2013, 05:03:41 PM »
Today, in the span of one hour and two Jug flights, I killed the ord bunkers at 4 small fields and one medium field. Those 12 ammo bunkers shut down virtually every base on both the Bish and Knight front lines. Sad thing was, not a single aircraft upped out of any of those five bases to try and stop me. Couple wirbs and 88s but not a single aircraft.

hard to stop a diving airplane.  rember saving private ryan?  "five men is an oportunity, one man a waste of ammo"



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Re: Pork the Ords for Perks
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2013, 11:31:23 PM »
Today, in the span of one hour and two Jug flights, I killed the ord bunkers at 4 small fields and one medium field. Those 12 ammo bunkers shut down virtually every base on both the Bish and Knight front lines. Sad thing was, not a single aircraft upped out of any of those five bases to try and stop me. Couple wirbs and 88s but not a single aircraft.

Can only speak for myself: I generally rarely up for single planes anywa, and I have largely given up on upping for a single porker in particular. Very difficult to intercept before he's diving on  the base, and most of the time he will auger/die in ack or simply zoom back and run home. Don't see that worth my effort ;)

(Personally I use mostly bombers for porking myself, mostly B-26 and G4M)
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Re: Pork the Ords for Perks
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2013, 12:10:03 AM »
Can only speak for myself: I generally rarely up for single planes anywa, and I have largely given up on upping for a single porker in particular. Very difficult to intercept before he's diving on  the base, and most of the time he will auger/die in ack or simply zoom back and run home. Don't see that worth my effort ;)

Same here but I will jump into a manned ack just so there's some resistance (maybe a flack, particularily if it's a GV base).
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Re: Pork the Ords for Perks
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2013, 12:43:51 AM »
I guess that pretty much sums up the laziness of the modern AH player base. It's disappointing that I went to five different bases on two fronts and found no one willing to fly a plane in a game about air combat. I don't pork for perks or war winning. I do it for two reasons. First, to slow down the horde. Second, to kick the ant pile.

Judging by your answers, I need to bring freinds when I wish to kick the ant pile.
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