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Offline Sunka

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Re: Bring on the night
« Reply #30 on: December 26, 2013, 11:47:10 AM »
Night=beyond stupid.

 Want to play at night? Make your own custom arena and make it night 24/7 if you want. I can assure you it'll be mostly empty almost all of that time. There is not--repeat--NOT--a lot of people that are clammoring for this. I'm not just talking smack. I've been here a long while. This has all happened before. I was here then. It sucked. No--it really, really sucked. People left the night arenas in droves. Why? Because it sucked. I see nothing positive from giving people a reason to not play our game. It's not fun flying in the dark--you can't see. Upping your gamma isn't the answer. If you're upping your gamma to make it brighter--like day, duh--you're not really flying in the dark now are ye? If you claim you're not doing that and are still able to see "at night" then you're either lying or there's something really wrong with your graphics settings. Where I live the sky is pretty dark at night. Like--black dark.

I just gotta shake my head when this comes up every few months like it's never happened before. Get over it. It SUCKED! It's NOT a new idea. It SUCKED!

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You guys keep telling us what "people" want ..a lot of us that like it are just saying WE like it. :aok
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Re: Bring on the night
« Reply #31 on: December 26, 2013, 12:00:58 PM »
You guys keep telling us what "people" want ..a lot of us that like it are just saying WE like it. :aok

No dude--it's a handful. A handful. And almost all of those are people that either A) weren't here when it happened and don't know better, or B) people that WERE here when it happened before and just tweaked their systems to make it more like day, or C) people that were here when it happened and just wanted to do milkruns without being seen. Period. They're the only people that could possibly think it'd be "cool".

I was here when we did this before and I'm telling you it wasn't a handful of people that just logged when it happened. It was most of the arena every time. You're not gonna tell me different because I know better.

Like I said--make your own arena. You can do that. And watch the world beat a path to your door. :D
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Re: Bring on the night
« Reply #32 on: December 26, 2013, 12:03:29 PM »
No dude--it's a handful. A handful. And almost all of those are people that either A) weren't here when it happened and don't know better, or B) people that WERE here when it happened before and just tweaked their systems to make it more like day, or C) people that were here when it happened and just wanted to do milkruns without being seen. Period. They're the only people that could possibly think it'd be "cool".

I was here when we did this before and I'm telling you it wasn't a handful of people that just logged when it happened. It was most of the arena every time. You're not gonna tell me different because I know better.

Like I said--make your own arena. You can do that. And watch the world beat a path to your door. :D
This was long long ago in a time far far away..gfx have changed.As i said ...All im saying is I like it.
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Re: Bring on the night
« Reply #33 on: December 26, 2013, 12:14:31 PM »
This was long long ago in a time far far away..gfx have changed.As i said ...All im saying is I like it.

Graphics has nothing to do with it. If it's "night" ya shouldn't be able to see. It's dark! Duh! If you're tweaking your "graphics" to make it "look better" then you aren't flying at night--in the dark. At night it's dark. If it's dark you can't see. If you can't see you can't fight. So what's the point of flying in the dark in an air combat game? That was the conclusion of this experiment long, long ago. It sucked. That's why it hasn't been repeated other than neato Santa nights. We tried it. It didn't come close to working out. Not even close.

I live about 4 miles off the end of a runway at a local airport. At night, if the planes that fly past didn't have their nav lights on--I wouldn't be able to see them. That's realistic. I wouldn't expect to. So why would you expect to see planes flying in the dark with no nav lights on (as we don't model them) here? And whatever graphics your PC is able to produce--I'm pretty sure it ain't up to the mark 1 human eyeball.
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Re: Bring on the night
« Reply #34 on: December 26, 2013, 12:23:52 PM »
Then, Drano, I belong to category D) WAS here when it happened but didn't tweak my system, neither did any of my buddies because it would've been against our sportsmanship code. Depending on the situation, we either flew solo, had a night mission or defended our fields. It was fun doing a NOE mission trying not to hit the mountains!

You talked about milkrunning without being seen. IMO the red icons will shine like neon lights in the dark. The dar bar and dots don't go anywhere. If there's people in the tower just sitting and watching the sky turn red, it's their loss. If people really left the arenas in droves as you put it, it would have affected all countries, leaving each the opportunity to try to take empty fields in the dark. Statistically no country benefited in such a situation. Besides, that's how it works even in daylight conditions during the off-hours when it's prime time either on the Atlantic or the Pacific, or in the Far East except for Japan for that matter. A disciplined and well oriented group could win entire maps during those hours! Unlike the damage that could be done during a 15 minutes darkness.

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Re: Bring on the night
« Reply #35 on: December 26, 2013, 12:30:56 PM »
Graphics has nothing to do with it. If it's "night" ya shouldn't be able to see. It's dark! Duh! If you're tweaking your "graphics" to make it "look better" then you aren't flying at night--in the dark. At night it's dark. If it's dark you can't see. If you can't see you can't fight. So what's the point of flying in the dark in an air combat game? That was the conclusion of this experiment long, long ago. It sucked. That's why it hasn't been repeated other than neato Santa nights. We tried it. It didn't come close to working out. Not even close.

I live about 4 miles off the end of a runway at a local airport. At night, if the planes that fly past didn't have their nav lights on--I wouldn't be able to see them. That's realistic. I wouldn't expect to. So why would you expect to see planes flying in the dark with no nav lights on (as we don't model them) here? And whatever graphics your PC is able to produce--I'm pretty sure it ain't up to the mark 1 human eyeball.
Your not getting what IM saying....ALL I SAID IS I LIKE IT.  :rolleyes:
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Re: Bring on the night
« Reply #36 on: December 26, 2013, 01:24:17 PM »
what is there to like about it?  Its equivalent to saying "I like bad".
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Re: Bring on the night
« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2013, 01:39:50 PM »
"I like bad".
You prove that with your name.   :D
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Re: Bring on the night
« Reply #38 on: December 26, 2013, 01:54:27 PM »
Your not getting what IM saying....ALL I SAID IS I LIKE IT.  :rolleyes:

so you do understand when we say  I SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :rolleyes:



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Re: Bring on the night
« Reply #39 on: December 26, 2013, 02:00:42 PM »
so you do understand when we say  I SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :rolleyes:



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 :rolleyes: umm okay.


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Re: Bring on the night
« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2013, 03:11:44 PM »
I enjoyed it :aok
It was a nice change from the same old  :old:
I, (noun. Singular; see also me, myself, ego, etc). would enjoy seeing it more often.



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Re: Bring on the night
« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2013, 04:11:55 PM »
I enjoyed it :aok
It was a nice change from the same old  :old:
I, (noun. Singular; see also me, myself, ego, etc). would enjoy seeing it more often.



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Re: Bring on the night
« Reply #42 on: December 26, 2013, 04:20:11 PM »


I was here when we did this before and I'm telling you it wasn't a handful of people that just logged when it happened. It was most of the arena every time. You're not gonna tell me different because I know better.



This is quite true. I remember that well, and was one of those that would log when night hit. It is one of those features that, broadly speaking, has a noticably negative effect for some people and thus forces them to log out of the game due to playability problems. If that were balanced with an equal or better number of people logging in at the same time due to the effect, then one _might_ have something. But that isn't the case here.
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Re: Bring on the night
« Reply #43 on: December 26, 2013, 04:41:10 PM »
You guys keep telling us what "people" want ..a lot of us that like it are just saying WE like it. :aok

how many of you have set up a night arena and play on it on a regular basis?  I mean you really like it that much....




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Re: Bring on the night
« Reply #44 on: December 26, 2013, 04:49:31 PM »
how many of you have set up a night arena and play on it on a regular basis?  I mean you really like it that much....




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You have made your feeling known.
But by all means keep going. :aok
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