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Offline NatCigg

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Michigans ten cent deposit
« on: January 12, 2014, 01:12:46 PM »
The state of Michigan has a ten cent deposit.  We save all our cans and take them back for good money, scavengers pick up all they can find, and cans are rarely thrown away. 

In hindsight I say this plan is a success. 

I wonder how other states view their soda and beer bottles?  Is pollution a problem? Do you and everyone else recycle or throw away your cans?

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Re: Michigans ten cent deposit
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2014, 01:40:52 PM »
In NJ - recycle




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Re: Michigans ten cent deposit
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2014, 02:09:30 PM »
by 2016 I think is what the news said, vermont is going to have 3 trash cans , 1 for trash, 1 for recycling, and the last for compost.  there are several towns here that have mandatory recycling.

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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2014, 05:21:34 PM »
Im looking more towards a compost bin just for the soil it will produce, havent really found one I like yet
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Re: Michigans ten cent deposit
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2014, 07:00:26 AM »
Parts of Cleveland have the recycle bins, we have not received ours yet so for now everything is trash except our aluminum cans which we crush and recycle for the cash.
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Re: Michigans ten cent deposit
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2014, 07:53:40 AM »
Vegas uses privatized sanitation and until last year they only had these tiny open top plastic bins for recycling, so many people don't bother.  We'd fill up one of those little bins in a day (3 small kids) and then the wind would tip them over on the street and blow the garbage all over.  The sanitation companies finally started switching to new large recycling bins with lids, but it's a city-wide rollout that will take more than a year to avoid fee hikes that would have been necessary to do it quickly.  Supposedly if I want a bin early I can pay extra and drive to the nearest recycling center to pick one up, but I'm going to just wait until they drop it off at my house.

In Calif, depending on where you live they have varying degrees of care given to it.  In San Diego where my Mom lives, its super easy.  They give each house a pretty large covered recycle bin and you can put literally anything recyclable into it.  In San Mateo up in the SF Bay area, they go a step farther by not only requiring recycling, they also shrank the size of the "trash" bin to about what would fit into a single lawn and leaf bag.  That's all the trash you get for the week without paying a fairly hefty additional fee.  Their recycle bins are also the crappy open-top plastic boxes that I hate, but I guess up there its sort of like some religions where they intentionally make things painfully time consuming in order to force you to think about it daily.

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Re: Michigans ten cent deposit
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2014, 08:41:25 AM »

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Re: Michigans ten cent deposit
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2014, 09:21:01 AM »
Texas sucks on both recycling and water rentention.

For example, San Antonio is the 7th largest city in america yet has no mandatory recycling, has awkward and inconvenient landfill policies and has very little (extra, man-made) infrastructure to capture runoff from the rain.

Voluntary recycling doesn't work unless it's totally convenient to the consumer. In the above landfill policy matter, people have to *pay* to drop off a load at the landfill. And the landfill is fairly complex in what goes where. Just awkward and inconvenient.

Someone makes money off of recycling -  just not enough incentive here in Texas yet, I guess.

Having said that, I'm a wannabe recycler who wants it as easy and convenient as possible; but since it isn;t, I don't.  My bad... :huh
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Re: Michigans ten cent deposit
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2014, 09:32:21 AM »
The state of Michigan has a ten cent deposit.  We save all our cans and take them back for good money, scavengers pick up all they can find, and cans are rarely thrown away. 

In hindsight I say this plan is a success. 

I wonder how other states view their soda and beer bottles?  Is pollution a problem? Do you and everyone else recycle or throw away your cans?

I was against this law when it came into effect, but after all these years my opinion has changed. You never see bottles and cans along the road anymore.

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Re: Michigans ten cent deposit
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2014, 12:04:17 PM »
I save all my aluminum and sell it to metal yards here in Texas.  :aok
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Re: Michigans ten cent deposit
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2014, 03:12:58 PM »
I was going to say.  I grew up in Michigan and I was shocked whenever I left the state at how much trash there was in every other state's roadsides and wildernesses.  Even the 5cent deposit states, where apparently it wasn't worth a nickle, even for the homeless.

That's another thing I want to point out.  The 10 cent deposit is basically putting the homeless or poor or whoever Fox News says needs to go to work, to work.  They do it willingly, that ordinarily you'd have to pay someone $10 an hour to do, or use prison / community service labor, or whatever.  And they're really good at finding every last can and bottle.  Its a win-win situation and I'm surprised that more states haven't done it.
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Re: Michigans ten cent deposit
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2014, 03:34:58 PM »
I save all my aluminum and sell it to metal yards here in Texas.  :aok
I have a can crusher I bought at Northern Tool for $5 and keep a kitchen size trash can underneath it. A full kitchen size bag of crushed cans is worth around $5.
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Re: Michigans ten cent deposit
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2014, 05:53:40 PM »
a hefty bag in michigan is around 40$

Many a child has achieved this and more at race tracks and such?  In fact, you see clean normal folk going around at large events.

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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2014, 01:48:36 PM »
a hefty bag in michigan is around 40$

Many a child has achieved this and more at race tracks and such?  In fact, you see clean normal folk going around at large events.

I did that on the day after the Livonia Spree one year.  I opened and dumped a lot of full beer cans into the grass.  And then I found a five dollar bill floating on the wind.  I was one happy kid.
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Re: Michigans ten cent deposit
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2014, 11:45:02 PM »
I opened and dumped a lot of full beer cans into the grass.
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