Michigans ten cent deposit

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Dang,
I didn't want reply anymore. I own and run a precision sheet metal company. I recycle everything. I have and pay for a big blue trash can at my house for recyclables. All I'm saying is this "SOMEONE IS PROFITING OFF YOUR GOOD FEELINGS AND YOU PAY FOR IT! AND YOUR NOT PROFITTING, YOUR BEING HOSED" Back in my day we had a distrust of the Gov. Now my generation has taught you that big Gov is the answer to all you problems. I'm willing to bet.......that the Gov. makes more money from this if you don't return your trash for refunds than if you do. Your at a Gas Station with a empty water bottle, do you take it in for your 10 cents or just chuck it the trash? If they cared more about the environment than money, they would have a big blue recyclable can sitting where your fueling up your vehicle, and at all convenience stores.

I'm sorry for what my generation has done to the youth of America. We should be imprisoned. I recycle..........but I don't feel good about laws that hose the people.

I do understand the recycling program, I also understand the underlying intent of Big Gov. and would like to see you keep more of your hard earned money. It would be better for the economy. I'm not saying "not to recycle", re-read my posts.

The owner of the local recycling company has a all stone built mansion, probably the poshest building in the city. So yes, SOMEONE makes a buck.

[NatCigg]

Dang,
I didn't want reply anymore. I own and run a precision sheet metal company. I recycle everything. I have and pay for a big blue trash can at my house for recyclables. All I'm saying is this "SOMEONE IS PROFITING OFF YOUR GOOD FEELINGS AND YOU PAY FOR IT! AND YOUR NOT PROFITTING, YOUR BEING HOSED" Back in my day we had a distrust of the Gov. Now my generation has taught you that big Gov is the answer to all you problems. I'm willing to bet.......that the Gov. makes more money from this if you don't return your trash for refunds than if you do. Your at a Gas Station with a empty water bottle, do you take it in for your 10 cents or just chuck it the trash? If they cared more about the environment than money, they would have a big blue recyclable can sitting where your fueling up your vehicle, and at all convenience stores.

I'm sorry for what my generation has done to the youth of America. We should be imprisoned. I recycle..........but I don't feel good about laws that hose the people.

I do understand the recycling program, I also understand the underlying intent of Big Gov. and would like to see you keep more of your hard earned money. It would be better for the economy. I'm not saying "not to recycle", re-read my posts.

Taxing beer and soda pop containers?  Those bastards! how dare they tax the poor that way! I could of used that 60 cents to buy more gas, err rent, err meth.  I dont see any additional ten cent tax on that rich mans wine!  Just like the man, always bringing us down to lift him up.

Thankfully, screaming paranoid man abolishes drink tax......

Man you remember the good ol days?

Yeah man, I used to walk capital loop and pick up 3.fitty?

yeah, that was dope.

Speaking of dope...lets go rob that ol lady over there.

[guncrasher]

Recycling steel is a bit different from plastic bottles. Glass is a bit better than plastic but plastic has a very low recycle value. It takes more energy to make new plastic from recyclables than from pure raw ingredients. For energy waste the ratio is even lower, the transportation costs are usually higher than the price waste burning plants will pay for the energy waste. It becomes even less profitable when you consider all the extra hassle and expenses created from having to have 3-4 plastic waste cans in each household and the same thing in the collection points - and the amount of labor spent to sorting the waste.

I was very happy that my city dumped the energy waste sorting thingy. We used to have to sort waste in black bags and energy waste in red bags even at my house. Biowaste we can legally compost ourselves but in reality we just dump it. Some apartment buildings had containers for biowaste, hazardous waste, energy waste, regular dump waste and paper. And all the people living there had piles of sorted waste laying around as kitchen cabinets are designed for 1 or 2 waste cans max

The biowaste is then taken into bioprocessing plants which will compost/rot the biowaste to be resold as compost soil. The processing plants create a huge smell that destroys the living quality of anyone unlucky enough to own a house at 10 miles radius from the plant. I have to shut down my car airconditioning every time I pass these plants, can't imagine someone living or working constantly in that stench.

again ripley you misunderstand a statement.

when I say recycling, i mean picking up cans and bottles and taking them to a recycling center and getting the crv (google it) plus the value of the scrap aluminum, glass, plastic.   the value of aluminum cans  in our area has been well over 2 dollars per pound for years. not a lot but some people make several hundred dollars a month in extra income.

semp

[MrRiplEy[H]]

again ripley you misunderstand a statement.

when I say recycling, i mean picking up cans and bottles and taking them to a recycling center and getting the crv (google it) plus the value of the scrap aluminum, glass, plastic.   the value of aluminum cans  in our area has been well over 2 dollars per pound for years. not a lot but some people make several hundred dollars a month in extra income.

semp

When the topic is deposit it usually means an organized recycling which is based on deposit, not selling scrap metal. If a country has a working social security system it's manifested with a lack of people having to dig trash for a living. It's common in third world countries though.

[guncrasher]

When the topic is deposit it usually means an organized recycling which is based on deposit, not selling scrap metal. If a country has a working social security system it's manifested with a lack of people having to dig trash for a living. It's common in third world countries though.

nope when we talk about deposit it means the 5 or 10 cents per bottle that we pay.  then if you return it you get it back along the value of the scrap metal.  not sure what the laws are in your country, but that is how they are here.

again, you trying to make statements about something you dont know.  just like I wont argue over why your country/city got rid of it.  I have never been there, never lived there and dont know the laws.  I actually dont even know if your country/city uses as much aluminum cans/plastic bottles.... as we do.  heck for all I know they still sell milk and beer in glass bottles only as I believe it should be.


semp

[MrRiplEy[H]]

nope when we talk about deposit it means the 5 or 10 cents per bottle that we pay.  then if you return it you get it back along the value of the scrap metal.  not sure what the laws are in your country, but that is how they are here.

again, you trying to make statements about something you dont know.  just like I wont argue over why your country/city got rid of it.  I have never been there, never lived there and dont know the laws.  I actually dont even know if your country/city uses as much aluminum cans/plastic bottles.... as we do.  heck for all I know they still sell milk and beer in glass bottles only as I believe it should be.


semp

Well obviously your system is different then. And you're right, I wasn't on topic so your note is accepted.