Cornering speed question.

[BnZs]

Buffet is too deep.  Best sustained turn rate and radius in most AH planes seems to be just into the stall buzzer sounding.

Fascinating...I thought it would before you get to the buffet.

[BaldEagl]

Fascinating...I thought it would before you get to the buffet.

It is.  No warning -> stall buzzer -> buffet -> stall.

[TequilaChaser]

Buffet is too deep.  Best sustained turn rate and radius in most AH planes seems to be just into the stall buzzer sounding.

Yes, with the stall horn buzzing and right at the start of buffet... Not in the buffet... If you go to deep into the buffet your radius/rate will deteriorate...

Trial and error of testing will show you... I recommend testing with an average of 5 minimum... But for me personally... I like to use the average of 10 flights ...

Hope this helps


TC

[hitech]

BTW in AH the stall horn is meant more as an edge sensor then a normal stall horn would be. Replaces some of the feel you get in the real thing.

In AH buffet = some portion of wing is stalled.

HiTech

[BnZs]

Roger, I thought you meant best turn performance would right at where you first hear the stall horn.

It is.  No warning -> stall buzzer -> buffet -> stall.

[FLS]

I believe you meant to include doing the test at the edge of stall.

HiTech

Since you can hear the stall horn below corner speed, I thought it was simpler to reference the blackout for a quick test of corner speed.

[FLS]

Thnx FLs , good and detailed explanation, but I see that you are focused on sustained turn anyway thanks again.

Let me ask my first question in a different way, I am looking for way to determine the speed to complete a single 360 turn with  which will give the tightest possible turn radius in a plane.

It seems like you missed my prior explanation. The tightest turn radius is at corner speed. When we make a high speed turn we are limited by blacking out so we ride the edge of the blackout. When we make a slow speed turn we ride the edge of the stall. When we make a maximum performance turn at corner speed we do both. We are on the edge of blacking out seeing tunnel vision and we're on the edge of stalling hearing the stall horn.

[Mace2004]

There is a quick and easy way to estimate Corner, just multiply the aircraft's wings level stall speed (in the configuration you fight in, i.e., gear and flaps up, with typical combat fuel load) and multiply it by 2.45.

As FLS has explained, Corner is both highest turn rate and minimum radius.  Any speed above or below Corner gives reduced turn rate and increased turn radius. 

[BnZs]

IIRC, formula for accelerated stall is the 1g stall speed multiplied by the square root of the Gs being pulled.

[Mace2004]

IIRC, formula for accelerated stall is the 1g stall speed multiplied by the square root of the Gs being pulled.

That's correct but since all of our AH fighters are limited to the same 6G due to blackout we can use the square root of 6 which is 2.45.

[Gooss]

Hitech is tossing out hints.  He's responded to this in the past as it relates to the game.  Search.

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Gooss