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Offline Rich46yo

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Resurgence of medium/Strike bombers.
« on: January 18, 2014, 09:16:24 AM »
Yesterday we stopped a Bisg attack where a lot of B25s were present, "I havnt seen that many B-25s together in a long time". With the coming TU-2S, the redo B-26, the eventual A-26, and of course the A-20, JU88, Mossie, KI-67, Boston, 410, AR234, I sense a come resurgence in the two engined strike bomber role.
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Re: Resurgence of medium/Strike bombers.
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2014, 09:53:35 AM »
Yesterday we stopped a Bisg attack where a lot of B25s were present, "I havnt seen that many B-25s together in a long time". With the coming TU-2S, the redo B-26, the eventual A-26, and of course the A-20, JU88, Mossie, KI-67, Boston, 410, AR234, I sense a come resurgence in the two engined strike bomber role.
Maybe  :noid
 
and yes i would like to see that instead of the Massive Suicide P38 Missions
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Re: Resurgence of medium/Strike bombers.
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2014, 10:29:22 AM »
The B-26 is probably the best medium bomber in the game due to its speed, bomb load, and amazing defensive armament.  The waist guns cover such a wide field of fire downward that they are just 1 notch shy of being a ball turret.  Now it does take a bit practice to get used to switching to the proper waist gun or jumping back into the tail turret, but so does everything else in Aces High. 

Just going from memory, at 50% fuel and a full bomb load, the B-26 cruises at 275mph at 14k.  Once you kick the bombs out, speed obviously increases, and nearly all enemy fighters will be slowly creeping towards your six.  Easy plinking for the the twin 50s in the tail turret.  Head on attacks are also a lot of fun. I usually disengage autopilot and have the whole formation open up with the fixed forward firing guns.  Just looking for a shot to splash oil all over the canopy of the enemy fighter.  That's enough to spoil his aim and sometimes discourages him from trying to reengage.
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Re: Resurgence of medium/Strike bombers.
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2014, 02:56:49 PM »
As good as the B-26 is I'd rather defend 3 KI-67s. First off an extra 25 mph is significant, such a gain would shut down a supply line in 1944. It often causes fighters to flatten out while trying to slash the belly and getting caught in the bombers "6". Then you can gently roll the KI and bring the top 20mms into the action along with the .50s, so thats 3 20mms and at least 6 .50s shooting back at a fighter caught in the rear.

But yeah right now I'd call the B-26 the King of the mediums. Speed, bomb loads, defensive firepower. The TU-2 will have to be awfully good to unseat it.

But they will carry more ords and will be faster, and will climb better. Not insignificant gains.
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Re: Resurgence of medium/Strike bombers.
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2014, 03:43:55 PM »
Ki-67 has more like 45mph on the B-26, 335mph at 20,000ft vs 290mph 13,000ft.  290mph is really nothing remarkable so I am not really sure why people keep calling it fast.  It is only slightly faster than the B-25C, the G4M1 is as fast at 20,000ft on up, the Ju88 is faster above 16,000ft and the Boston Mk III and Ki-67 are much faster at all altitudes.  The Tu-2S will also be faster. Even the heavy bombers are faster at altitude, or in the worst case Lancaster merely as fast.  The perk bombers are, of course, all very much faster.

The B-26 is much faster than the He111.  Should it be added, the B-26B is will also be much faster than the Wellington.
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Re: Resurgence of medium/Strike bombers.
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2014, 10:33:59 PM »
Do 217 is faster than the B-26, in-fact a better performer in most things & totes more loads options,
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Re: Resurgence of medium/Strike bombers.
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2014, 08:53:03 AM »
Do 217 is faster than the B-26, in-fact a better performer in most things & totes more loads options,
-but bugger it - its still on the wish-list..
Ju188, He177 and P1Y1 would also all be significantly faster than the B-26B, and are still on the wish list.
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Re: Resurgence of medium/Strike bombers.
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2014, 10:43:57 AM »
Mossie's fighter-bombers  and A-20 should on-top of this list since they serve as excellent fighters after they drop ordnance, when they are used in groups.

A-20 looks to me suspiciously good in taking hits, and even take more damage than the yak-3.  :confused:
I mean compare with the 410, they die when you breath angrily at their general location compared.

I mean why bring escorts when they do the job better after drop ?
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Re: Resurgence of medium/Strike bombers.
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2014, 08:45:30 PM »
What adds to the luster of the B-26 is its excellent defensive armament. I don't see another medium that's as dangerous to attack from the rear.
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Re: Resurgence of medium/Strike bombers.
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2014, 10:42:45 PM »
Not that any real-life gung-ho fighter-jock worth his flight pay,

 let alone 'throat ache' for a gong - would let mere .50cals stop him from getting stuck in,

If he caught a big plump 'n' juicy bird like a B-26 in his purview,

nah,  it'd be toast, forthwith.. & they were, if caught unescorted..
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Re: Resurgence of medium/Strike bombers.
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2014, 03:57:10 AM »
I remember the B-26, at either 10,000' or maybe 12,000', reaching about 286 mph loaded and 300 mph unloaded.

Since the mediums normally fly at 8k to 12k thats nothing to sneeze at. And 8 x 500lbs X 3 airplanes is nothing to sneeze at either. At low level, and taking your time, thats 4 hangars. So one set of B-26s can shut down a small airfield of VHs and fighters.

Also its the ultimate CV killer.
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Re: Resurgence of medium/Strike bombers.
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2014, 04:05:55 AM »
SShhh!!! Rather they stuck to mass b38 raids, the kills are easier

I hate attacking medium bombers like the b26, higher potential for something on my plane to get busted.
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Re: Resurgence of medium/Strike bombers.
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2014, 06:51:15 AM »
A-20s have always been numerous in appearance. Haven't seen too many A-20 raids. But I do agree that the B-26 is a beast to try to shoot down and the Ki-67's are fast and with that 20MM up top they can be deadly as well.
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Re: Resurgence of medium/Strike bombers.
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2014, 09:39:01 AM »
The B26 can fly over a fully operational carrier group at 4000 feet and land his 457 points for sinking the CV without incurring any damage.

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Re: Resurgence of medium/Strike bombers.
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