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Offline Tank-Ace

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Re: Question or two about the Spit 14
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2014, 03:55:45 PM »
Because it would be severely unbalancing to the game. Duh  :lol.


Basically, anything running 150 octane gas would need to be perked.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: Question or two about the Spit 14
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2014, 04:05:34 PM »
Unbalancing something?

Reality be damned or words to that effect, as Gopher, sorry - Golfer would put it..

 Or  - someone, duh..
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Re: Question or two about the Spit 14
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2014, 04:30:51 PM »
 JAW,


   If you actually played AH you'd understand what's meant by unbalancing,but since you dont all you can do is troll and try to instigate.

  I'm not sure exactly what your agenda is but I wish you'd go and push it in the game you do play.



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Re: Question or two about the Spit 14
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2014, 04:43:46 PM »
I understand perfectly, & probably likely there are fair reasons for it, anomalous or otherwise,
-but to use labels such  a 'troll' with an 'agenda' - in response to posting of historical facts shows
a certain raw spot for someone who claims to be unaffected by interweb forum interactivity..
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Re: Question or two about the Spit 14
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2014, 04:45:56 PM »
 Merely observational.....







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Re: Question or two about the Spit 14
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2014, 04:58:55 PM »
Merely observational.....

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Correctly I might add. JAW derailed both "Best fighter bomber" threads so he could bash radial engines, and anything not designed in line with the Tempest. Particularly the P-38.

Wrecked a thread about the 190 with more blather about the Typhoon and Tempest, and their cannons.

Sure there's more I'm forgetting.


If he's not a troll, he's certainly not very bright.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: Question or two about the Spit 14
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2014, 05:04:03 PM »
& T-A typically resorts to bogus ad-hominem rants when his spurious beliefs are held up to the facts..

FYI T-A, the need to effectively punish cross-channel (& as far as London, in daylight, even) FW 190 JABO raids
was a prime reason the whole Typhoon/Sabre program was not cancelled..
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Re: Question or two about the Spit 14
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2014, 05:59:27 PM »
 The ironic part is that the best tempest and it's faster brother the fury were powered by........ yup a radial! :rofl :rofl :rofl




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Re: Question or two about the Spit 14
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2014, 06:12:31 PM »
Ah, wrong there again Mf, the best performing Tempest & Fury were Sabre-powered, in fact..

http://www.aafo.com/hangartalk/showthread.php?2812-Hawker-Fury-Prototypes-3-amp-4&p=110375

& of course  - the same applied to the FW 190 too.. the liquid cooled V12 equipped variants were best..
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Re: Question or two about the Spit 14
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2014, 06:22:13 PM »
Ah, wrong there again Mf, the best performing Tempest & Fury were Sabre-powered, in fact..


How many were front line a/c?

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Re: Question or two about the Spit 14
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2014, 06:25:34 PM »
Most Tempests were Sabre powered, inc' the final production variant Mk6.

& while the jet-bent RAF didn't order the Sabre-Fury, there were twice as many built - as you thought m.m...
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Re: Question or two about the Spit 14
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2014, 07:08:35 PM »
Your uber Saber Fury was behind the P&W R-2800 radial powered P-47J and P&W R-4360 radial powered XP-72.

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Re: Question or two about the Spit 14
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2014, 07:29:44 PM »
Yeah right, m.m. just post a link to those USAAF flight tests that give actual figures then..
Or were they just wiki-mythical?

& FYI the Tempest I prototype was tested at 470+mph in 1943..

& so, sure those porcine Jugs could wind out up-stairs where their fat-bellied airframes had less drag,
& their turbo-chargers kept on pumpin'.. ..for a little while. 'til they over-heated , or gas-hogged all their juice..

-but at those Sabre-Fury best - lower altitudes, they'd
be barbequed like crispy roast pork, mmmm...aaarrghhh, as Homer J, would put it..
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Re: Question or two about the Spit 14
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2014, 07:43:16 PM »
Here is the liquid-cooled V-16 Chrysler Hemi powered P-47..

http://www.allpar.com/mopar/hemi-aircraft.html
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Re: Question or two about the Spit 14
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2014, 07:53:50 PM »
Yeah right, m.m. just post a link to those USAAF flight tests that give actual figures then..
Or were they just wiki-mythical?

& FYI the Tempest I prototype was tested at 470+mph in 1943..

& so, sure those porcine Jugs could wind out up-stairs where their fat-bellied airframes had less drag,
& their turbo-chargers kept on pumpin'.. ..for a little while. 'til they over-heated , or gas-hogged all their juice..

-but at those Sabre-Fury best - lower altitudes, they'd
be barbequed like crispy roast pork, mmmm...aaarrghhh, as Homer J, would put it..

Got a reference for the Tempest I prototype reaching more than 470 mph? No referenced figure I can find has the Mk I prototype making more than 466 mph.