I cant hate on this entirely... only active when you are in your bombsight. Don't make them all that great, as I remember their actually used to be AI gunners in bombers long time ago on this game. They were not very useful beyond keeping some of those so called "Fighter" guys from simply just waiting high above you out of range to attack you as you are approaching a target and they think your in your sight, because god forbid they cant line up on your 6 and fire away because you are actually defending yourself. Not all jocks do it but there is enough of them out there, it kind of takes away from it when you see it happening too, they will follow you for 10-20 miles just to wait till you are approaching a field or target to attack you, now where is the fun in that. With AI gunners at least it could afford you a little bit of time while you are bombing, for those times that you cant get any joiners, after all not like all the gunners stopped what they were doing just because the bombardier was in his sight they still defended their aircraft. just sayin