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Offline NatCigg

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Re: Allied Bombing campaign
« Reply #60 on: January 27, 2014, 10:45:33 AM »
In February 1945 Hitler was still alive and calling for the extinction of people he deemed inferior. He had plenty of people willing to follw him continue the carnage he started.
No bombs fell on Germany after the surrender. Below is a picture of an 8th AF B-17 dropping food to people starving in the Netherlands.. Did Hitler do things like this or was it just the Allied
War Criminals?

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did you notice all the bomb craters are around the house!  :banana: america!  :banana:  :airplane:   :cheers: 

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Re: Allied Bombing campaign
« Reply #61 on: January 27, 2014, 11:16:29 AM »
By February 1945 I think it's safe to say that Germany's intentions towards London had been stopped already, and the German government had about two months left. The Red Army had advanced into Germany itself and the Allies had reached the Rhine.

There were rational military leaders within the German military hierarchy that realized the irrationality of Hitler and his close following.  They also recognized the scope of the mistake it was to follow Hitler and the Nazi regime. Some knew before hostilities began in 1939, but all knew just 6 years later.  

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Re: Allied Bombing campaign
« Reply #62 on: January 27, 2014, 11:42:48 AM »
Don't forget that the russians were part of the Allies too - and they committed their fair share of attrocities. Million raped women, who knows how many killed and tortured with no trials.
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Re: Allied Bombing campaign
« Reply #63 on: January 27, 2014, 12:03:07 PM »
Yep, which is why German leadership tried so hard to surrender to the Allies on the Western and Mediterranean fronts.

IMO, it was a crime to allow Stalin to have his way in this matter.

Wish we had Denny's here in Germany.
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Re: Allied Bombing campaign
« Reply #64 on: January 27, 2014, 12:18:24 PM »
Don't forget that the russians were part of the Allies too - and they committed their fair share of attrocities. Million raped women, who knows how many killed and tortured with no trials.

Yeah, having the Russians as our WW2 allies was like picking players for a pick-up, tackle football game.  You know, the 350 pound 6'8 guy standing there with the one eyebrow and maybe 4 good teeth?  You don't want him as a friend, but you sure don't want to play agains him either.
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Re: Allied Bombing campaign
« Reply #65 on: January 27, 2014, 12:22:54 PM »
Did you watch "The Bombing of Germany" ?
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Re: Allied Bombing campaign
« Reply #66 on: January 27, 2014, 02:20:19 PM »
There were rational military leaders within the German military hierarchy that realized the irrationality of Hitler and his close following.  They also recognized the scope of the mistake it was to follow Hitler and the Nazi regime. Some knew before hostilities began in 1939, but all knew just 6 years later.  

War is hell and will bring out the worst in people.  Read Sledge's book  

Another German myth the German werhmact were mass murderer's just as much as the SS.

The SS Alibi of a Nation is a very good book.

Staffenberg and his lot were traitors trying to save their necks, they were kissing Adolf's bott until it was going pear shaped :old:

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Re: Allied Bombing campaign
« Reply #67 on: January 27, 2014, 03:13:28 PM »
Toward the end of World War II . . .

Dresden was horrible, but what a bunch of propagandist tripe by whoever that author is.

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and possessing no military value

Of course cities have military value, especially ones that are transportation nexuses.

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A gentlemen's agreement seemed to prevail, designating Dresden an "open city."

So allied personnel could go there and hang out in some cafes and chat with the locals?  Maybe the author means, no, they couldn't do that, but they could "hang out" and "chat".

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Approximately 500.000 . . .

Or, as pointed out, maybe 1/20th of that amount.

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Little did those refugees retreating from the Red terror imagine that they were about to die in a horror worse than anything Stalin could devise.

The author apparently has either read almost nothing about Stalin or is just lying.

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Re: Allied Bombing campaign
« Reply #68 on: January 27, 2014, 03:35:20 PM »
Yep, which is why German leadership tried so hard to surrender to the Allies on the Western and Mediterranean fronts.

IMO, it was a crime to allow Stalin to have his way in this matter.

Wish we had Denny's here in Germany.

Dude just drive down to Dieter's order yourself the Grand Slam Frühstück and stop your whining.  :P

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Re: Allied Bombing campaign
« Reply #69 on: January 27, 2014, 03:49:11 PM »
The Grand Slam is served in my house on Saturday mornings :aok

The German Bistros serve breakfast on the light side ... What's up with that?
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Re: Allied Bombing campaign
« Reply #70 on: January 27, 2014, 03:52:51 PM »
I remember getting some kind of thick brown goolash for breakfast at the Luftwaffe base in Jever.. That stuff was fantastic.

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Re: Allied Bombing campaign
« Reply #71 on: January 27, 2014, 06:22:29 PM »
The full English breakfast is quite awesome.

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Re: Allied Bombing campaign
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Re: Allied Bombing campaign
« Reply #73 on: January 27, 2014, 06:58:52 PM »


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Re: Allied Bombing campaign
« Reply #74 on: January 27, 2014, 06:59:55 PM »
I would like to know Zack's view on the full English breakfast.