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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman passes
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2014, 01:39:49 AM »
Whats your problem Danny!

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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman passes
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2014, 01:49:54 PM »
Wear ladies high healed shoes then!
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman passes
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2014, 05:27:04 PM »


But the point is valid. He was breaking the law and abusing a substance that is commonly accepted as dangerous.

 

Ever drink a pitcher of beer at a sport's bar then drive home?  That fits your above criteria.

Some drugs are just horribly addictive.  Many heroin addicts first got physically addicted to prescription pain killers.  Big companies like Phizer kept making stronger and stronger opiate based medications.  Humans have many natural reward systems neurologically.  These were originally set to reward us for behaviors that supported our survival and fitness (production of offspring).  These (relatively) new drugs give exponentially higher reward chemicals than anything we could possibly do, including having sex with the most attractive woman.  I have a link to a very informative and interesting lecture on YouTube from a PhD Pharmacologist if you'd like. 
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« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2014, 06:16:52 PM »
Ever drink a pitcher of beer at a sport's bar then drive home?  That fits your above criteria.

Don't drink and drive!  :mad:
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman passes
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2014, 12:46:37 AM »
Wear ladies high healed shoes then!

Have been for years.
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« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2014, 12:58:06 AM »
Ever drink a pitcher of beer at a sport's bar then drive home?  That fits your above criteria.

Some drugs are just horribly addictive.  Many heroin addicts first got physically addicted to prescription pain killers.  Big companies like Phizer kept making stronger and stronger opiate based medications.  Humans have many natural reward systems neurologically.  These were originally set to reward us for behaviors that supported our survival and fitness (production of offspring).  These (relatively) new drugs give exponentially higher reward chemicals than anything we could possibly do, including having sex with the most attractive woman.  I have a link to a very informative and interesting lecture on YouTube from a PhD Pharmacologist if you'd like. 

What twaddle!

He was supposedly an intelligent human being, and yet apparently fails to realise that despite the illegality of what he was doing, the only realistic prospect from it was the one he got. I care not a jot that the guy was on prescription painkillers, and the drug companies hardly forced proressively stronger painkillers on the guy! He was a rich and privilidged fool and as with many similar peoe in his position, he managed to find yet another way to spend his obscene wealth-drugs. Because thats what you do when you are loaded and famous. Hence Whitney, Jackson, Heath Ledger, Marilyn Monroe, the list is endless. I am in pain most days. Sometimes the prescription drugs I have don't touch it. I have yet to pump mysekf full off illegal crap as a result. Utter tosh :old:
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman passes
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2014, 02:11:02 AM »
What twaddle!

He was supposedly an intelligent human being, and yet apparently fails to realise that despite the illegality of what he was doing, the only realistic prospect from it was the one he got. I care not a jot that the guy was on prescription painkillers, and the drug companies hardly forced proressively stronger painkillers on the guy! He was a rich and privilidged fool and as with many similar peoe in his position, he managed to find yet another way to spend his obscene wealth-drugs. Because thats what you do when you are loaded and famous. Hence Whitney, Jackson, Heath Ledger, Marilyn Monroe, the list is endless. I am in pain most days. Sometimes the prescription drugs I have don't touch it. I have yet to pump mysekf full off illegal crap as a result. Utter tosh :old:

We, for all intents and purposes, are just a function of our brain health.  Like I said in my earlier post, there are multiple reward pathways in the brain.  There are also variations on these pathways, some of which are convoluted.  Have you ever found it enjoyable to read and learn something?  If so, you have a much shorter reward pathway for cannabinoid receptors than someone who does not enjoy reading and learning.  I'm using that example as an analogy as to why some people can take pain pills and not become addicted, while others are totally dependent after a short prescription of them.

It is quite obvious that being rich and famous brings a person in contact (whether they want to be or not) with drugs.  About the only safe option is to never try them at all. 

Your rationale of "Because thats what you do when you are loaded and famous." is totally off base.  As is "I have yet to pump mysekf full of illegal crap as a result".  Why would you pump yourself full of illegal opiate based drugs that, by your own admission, don't even take your pain away?  The answer in your case is that you wouldn't, because you gain nothing from it.

Here is a good website that covers the physiology of addiction http://ibgwww.colorado.edu/cadd/a_drug/essays/essay4.htm
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman passes
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2014, 05:05:23 AM »
Never said that illegal opiate drugs wouldn't take my pain away. They probably would. I have pain from going and grafting every day, and from a number of injuries. I haven't tried illicit drugs, nor will I. It seems to me that for a worrying number of people a prerequisite of fame and fortune is an inability to make rational decisions about not simply taking illegal substances, but jn what quantity. The fact that this eijit was supposedly on his way to collect his kids at the time would suggest tyat he , had he not topped himself, would have got in a car and toddled off to collect them. I am pretty much devoid of sympathy. Strikes me that an inordinate number of people in the limelight with cushy jobs they love to do, feel the need to overdose.
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman passes
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2014, 05:19:52 AM »
Very intresting info Dave....thx  :aok
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« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2014, 08:48:21 AM »

   We all have a Monster inside of our heads. can you defeat yours?  :devil

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« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2014, 08:53:30 AM »
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman passes
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2014, 01:28:21 PM »
At least hoffman did not look like Woody Allen :old:

I try to look at the positive in every situation :old:
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« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2014, 03:27:27 PM »
We, for all intents and purposes, are just a function of our brain health.  Like I said in my earlier post, there are multiple reward pathways in the brain.  There are also variations on these pathways, some of which are convoluted.  Have you ever found it enjoyable to read and learn something?  If so, you have a much shorter reward pathway for cannabinoid receptors than someone who does not enjoy reading and learning.  I'm using that example as an analogy as to why some people can take pain pills and not become addicted, while others are totally dependent after a short prescription of them.

It is quite obvious that being rich and famous brings a person in contact (whether they want to be or not) with drugs.  About the only safe option is to never try them at all. 

Your rationale of "Because thats what you do when you are loaded and famous." is totally off base.  As is "I have yet to pump mysekf full of illegal crap as a result".  Why would you pump yourself full of illegal opiate based drugs that, by your own admission, don't even take your pain away?  The answer in your case is that you wouldn't, because you gain nothing from it.

Here is a good website that covers the physiology of addiction http://ibgwww.colorado.edu/cadd/a_drug/essays/essay4.htm


  This is well thought out,except I take 1 exception,addiction and dependance are 2 different things!  You can become dependant on a medication and not be addicted to it,you will experience withdrawels because the body is dependant but it doesnt mean you are craving it or addicted.

  An addict takes a drug to get high or a buzz or what have you and person dependant on a drug isnt taking it for the "buzz" they likely take it because of a medical reason and need to be careful when they stop taking it so as to not go into shock from the withdrawl effects.


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