P-51A NO CANNONS

[BnZs]

Not as fast but has a lighter wingloading, which would be neat. For the love of dog though, not a version with cannons.

[Karnak]

Would be a nice addition.

Put on your fire retardant suit though, the usual "power" crowd will be in shortly to flambe you.

[BnZs]

Would be a nice addition.

Put on your fire retardant suit though, the usual "power" crowd will be in shortly to flambe you.

I'm thinking with the lighter wingloading and low on fuel, it would be something like a Yak.

[morfiend]

   I see no reason to not add the cannon armed 51!


  Flame away....


   

[BnZs]

  I see no reason to not add the cannon armed 51!


  Flame away....


  

There is no historical reason not to but the .50s version would induce less dweebery and uproar. Maybe add the cannon version as a perker, like the F4U-C.

I'm wanting more twist-twisty in a Mustang-shaped package, not more boom-boom-in-the-facy

[Megalodon]

There is no historical reason not to but the .50s version would induce less dweebery and uproar. Maybe add the cannon version as a perker, like the F4U-C.

I'm wanting more twist-twisty in a Mustang-shaped package, not more boom-boom-in-the-facy

+1 for Allison birds

I'd be good with the 20mm as a perk bird ...tho it was a early/mid war bird.

I would suggest the earlier P-51 model, still get the Allison 4x30 4x50 or 20mm as load out options and also add the A-36 4 0r 6x50, eggs and dive flaps in place of the P-51A. The 51A is not much different then the B/C except for the engine and we have a hi alt version already.

You could also add the P-51C as the bubble top or add the bubble top <Malcolm> as an option on the 51B in the hanger.

Make 2 versions of the P-51D, early/1 no-fillet, no k-14 and no rockets and late/30 with all 3 as the top of the line P-51D... maybe a small perk for the latter <2-4>. Then you would have the whole range of the 51 which compared to the 47/109/190/spit/yak/ is lacking.

 

[morfiend]

There is no historical reason not to but the .50s version would induce less dweebery and uproar. Maybe add the cannon version as a perker, like the F4U-C.

I'm wanting more twist-twisty in a Mustang-shaped package, not more boom-boom-in-the-facy

   To me it makes sense,it's a low alt version with the Allison which is where most fly in AH.



   


PS: I'd rather see the beaufighter added but hey it has 4 cannons too!

[cobia38]

There is no historical reason not to but the .50s version would induce less dweebery and uproar. Maybe add the cannon version as a perker, like the F4U-C.

I'm wanting more twist-twisty in a Mustang-shaped package, not more boom-boom-in-the-facy

 why would it have to be perked  with cannons ????
 you don't see mossy/tiffy/hurri/spits/109s/190s/n1k1/ ....ect ect all cannon birds BTW, perked do you ?
 so why perk an murican bird with cannons ? inquiring minds want to know !!!!
 



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[LCADolby]

It wouldn't need to be perked at all, Allison engine P51s would be meat for the grinder.

[Ack-Ack]

It wouldn't need to be perked at all, Allison engine P51s would be meat for the grinder.

At altitudes where majority of the fights take place in AH, it will be competitive and not fodder for the meat grinder.

ack-ack

[Tank-Ace]

I would wager on seeing a LOT more HO'ing from pony dweebs, if they know they have the advantage in firepower. I'm frankly still amazed anyone would be dumb enough to try and HO a 110, or a K4.

[Ack-Ack]

I would wager on seeing a LOT more HO'ing from pony dweebs, if they know they have the advantage in firepower. I'm frankly still amazed anyone would be dumb enough to try and HO a 110, or a K4.

You'd see no more head on shots than you see now.

ack-ack

[Karnak]

   To me it makes sense,it's a low alt version with the Allison which is where most fly in AH.



   


PS: I'd rather see the beaufighter added but hey it has 4 cannons too!

 why would it have to be perked  with cannons ????
 you don't see mossy/tiffy/hurri/spits/109s/190s/n1k1/ ....ect ect all cannon birds BTW, perked do you ?
 so why perk an murican bird with cannons ? inquiring minds want to know !!!!
 



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Four cannons is not the issue.  Four cannons on an aircraft for which the vast majority did not have cannons at all but because the four cannons are available in AH it completely dominates  the usage for that aircraft is the problem that the P-51A and A-20G have.

All N1K2-Js had four cannons.  All Typhoons had four cannons.  All fighter Mosquitoes, other than the low production Mk XVIII, had four cannons.  Many, many Fw190s had four cannons.  The significant majority of Hurricane Mk IIs had four cannons.  All Tempests had four cannons.

You cannot have the representative versions of those aircraft without having them armed with four cannons.  There are two aircraft, both Russian, in AH right now that violate that and offer rare gun packages and in both case the historically common gun package is essentially extinct in AH.  The La-7 should be armed with two 20mm cannons and the Il-2 should be armed with two 23mm cannons.  The three cannon option on the La-7 and the 37mm option on the Il-2 should be perk options and so the P-51A and A-20G should follow the same pattern, offer the four cannons but at the cost a perk point or five.

[caldera]

Just what the game needs, more Mustangs. 

[morfiend]

Four cannons is not the issue.  Four cannons on an aircraft for which the vast majority did not have cannons at all but because the four cannons are available in AH it completely dominates  the usage for that aircraft is the problem that the P-51A and A-20G have.

All N1K2-Js had four cannons.  All Typhoons had four cannons.  All fighter Mosquitoes, other than the low production Mk XVIII, had four cannons.  Many, many Fw190s had four cannons.  The significant majority of Hurricane Mk IIs had four cannons.  All Tempests had four cannons.

You cannot have the representative versions of those aircraft without having them armed with four cannons.  There are two aircraft, both Russian, in AH right now that violate that and offer rare gun packages and in both case the historically common gun package is essentially extinct in AH.  The La-7 should be armed with two 20mm cannons and the Il-2 should be armed with two 23mm cannons.  The three cannon option on the La-7 and the 37mm option on the Il-2 should be perk options and so the P-51A and A-20G should follow the same pattern, offer the four cannons but at the cost a perk point or five.

  Karnak, I never said anything other than I see no reason to not include the 4 cannon 51,perk it or whatever it makes no difference to me. That doesnt change the fact that I see no reason to not include it!

  I'd rather see the beau first,a 109G with a highblown engine would be fine also and likely the game could use these first but.... see above.