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Offline Blinder

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dry berth project
« on: February 05, 2014, 04:52:53 PM »
I am so glad they are doing this.  :aok

She is the last of the early 20th century dreadnoughts left in existence so the ole girl deserves to be protected and kept in good order.

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Re: dry berth project
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2014, 05:08:18 PM »
It figures. It's been cancelled. I guess we'll be saying good bye to this national treasure while illegal aliens and foreign governments get billions from the Obama administration.  :bhead

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Dry-berth-for-USS-Texas-off-the-table-for-now-3720074.php
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Re: dry berth project
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2014, 02:57:59 PM »
It figures. It's been cancelled. I guess we'll be saying good bye to this national treasure while illegal aliens and foreign governments get billions from the Obama administration.  :bhead

If you read the article you would know that it has exactly nothing to do with the Obama administration. You can thank your buddy Rick Perry for this one.

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"We've come to terms that we cannot dry-berth for the money we have," said Neil Thomas, the Texas Department of Parks and Wildlife ship project manager. "We did everything we could to explore the dry-berth options. Now, we will move as quickly as we can to prioritize and execute the most critical repairs to preserve the ship's life as long as possible.

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The decision to step away from the dry-berth project came as little surprise. Executing the original plan, for which Texas voters in 2007 approved a $25 million bond issue, increasingly seemed less probable as officials estimated its cost may approach $75 million.

Thomas said the bond issue's remaining $23 million will be applied to repairs necessary to keep the ship safe for visitors. Most of those will involve strengthening weight-bearing structures beneath the engines, boilers and steering gear at the vessel's rear.

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Re: dry berth project
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2014, 03:26:49 PM »
Yes but the fed can step in at anytime and make this happen. Considering that my defense plant in York once commanded a 1.21 billion dollar contract for Bradley resets and remans I think DC could spare $75 million to preserve a national treasure such as the last dreadnought battleship in existence. They could start by taking a chunk out of the useless foreign aid we send to such places as Syria and Haiti where the masses never seem to benefit from this money.

Cut the BS and save this piece of American naval history before her hull finally gives out!

That is all I am saying. The Japanese know the value of history. They have the IJN Mikasa berthed in concrete.
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Re: dry berth project
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2014, 03:49:49 PM »
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Yes but the fed can step in at anytime and make this happen.

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Wait I thought they wanted less government.  I am confused.

I need Ayn Rand to explain this maybe.
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Re: dry berth project
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2014, 03:56:38 PM »
[silliness]
Wait I thought they wanted less government.  I am confused.

I need Ayn Rand to explain this maybe.
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I fail to see where the "big or less government" argument has any bearing on releasing taxpayer money to preserve a treasure of the nation versus pisssing it away to foreign aide. Maybe Ayn Rand can explain that too.
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Re: dry berth project
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2014, 04:40:40 PM »
I fail to see where the "big or less government" argument has any bearing on releasing taxpayer money to preserve a treasure of the nation versus pisssing it away to foreign aide. Maybe Ayn Rand can explain that too.

It is really quite simple.  You hear a lot of people say they want less government but when it is their pet project on the chopping block, suddenly a "little more" government seems palatable.

I'm sorry if it sounds harsh, but if this cannot be privately funded, or if it goes to the voters and they wont appropriate enough money to make it happen, well then.......................
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Re: dry berth project
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2014, 08:17:10 PM »
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Executing the original plan, for which Texas voters in 2007 approved a $25 million bond issue, increasingly seemed less probable as officials estimated its cost may approach $75 million.

This means it would end up costing at least $300 million.  Why not round up some illegals and pay them 10 grand each and they will pull it ashore.
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Re: dry berth project
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2014, 08:38:19 PM »
Wow. For a bunch of wargame enthusiasts you sure are harsh towards the USS Texas. I guess she's just not as glamorous as the Bunker Hill.

So much for preserving an actual piece of history. Oh well, guess I'll just go buy an i-something instead.  :rolleyes:
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Offline GScholz

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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2014, 10:46:20 PM »
She is a piece of history and deserves to be preserved, but she is also an enormous project both in size and money. I'd love to see her in person.
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Re: dry berth project
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2014, 12:43:11 AM »
My kids liked it when I took them.
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Re: dry berth project
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2014, 04:39:40 AM »
Sooo...helping people that are starving, and homeless because of a despot or famine or drought or whatever is less important than saving a battleship? I honor the memories of those who served, but to put a material object before humankind is not right. If you really are concerned about the ship, join the campaign(or start one) to save it with PRIVATE funds.
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Re: dry berth project
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2014, 05:48:49 AM »
I would love to be able to go see the ship someday.  IMO the USS Texas is a much sexier ship than the Iowa class ships. 

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Re: dry berth project
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2014, 07:34:24 AM »
Sooo...helping people that are starving, and homeless because of a despot or famine or drought or whatever is less important than saving a battleship? I honor the memories of those who served, but to put a material object before humankind is not right. If you really are concerned about the ship, join the campaign(or start one) to save it with PRIVATE funds.

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Re: dry berth project
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2014, 09:06:48 AM »
http://www.mareislandmuseum.org/about/ships/uss-olympia/?gclid=CKbS5PyjurwCFYVDMgod70kA_g

Another old ship of historical significance that is worth perserving.