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Bad performance
« on: February 17, 2014, 08:47:05 PM »
I find the game isnt as smooth as it should be... not at all... I run 30 FPS when theres people around and 60 when there isnt.

My new custom gaming computer can handle battlefield 4 at 85 FPS constant and crysis 3 at 45 FPS cosntant on full graphics there is absolutly no reason it cant run this game at 100+ FPS

I just feel like the game should be running like smooth butter and not like its having a hard time....

My specs as follows.

CPU: AMD FX-8350 (8 core 4.2ghz)
VIDEOCARD: Nvidia EVGA 780 FTW 3gig
RAM:16 Gig G Skill sniper series 2133MHZ
MOBO: Asus Crosshair Formula Z
SSD:Samsung 840 Pro 256 Gig
COOLING: Corsair h100I Liquid
PSU: Corsair 1000W

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Re: Bad performance
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2014, 09:16:30 PM »
Also list what in game settings your using texture sizes, shadows, AA and so on.

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Re: Bad performance
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2014, 09:24:35 PM »
I have not got quite the machine that you do, but I do get 60f/s, which is fairly consistant.

If I might suggest, go into your Nvidia profiles and turn things off. Use single monitor performance mode, max power mode, choose 3d app setting where you can. Try V sync off, then adaptive, then on. See if that increases F/S. If it does help, slowly add stuff back, see if you can pin down something specific. Nvidia has some drivers out labeled "game ready", try it, I use 331.65. It is the best driver I have tried yet. My cards are way old. Make sure things are cooling properly. In AH pre-log vid settings, turn off AA.

I understand you feel that such a machine should be able to run all things at max, but...............
AH only works with 2 cores............altho windows will try to spread the threads.
its still a DX 9 game..............might try the DX 9 update for end users.
Its servers that are hosting 300+ players......make sure your NIC is setup right, and your router if you use one.
How many processes are running? You using W8?
A prebuilt machine could have a lot of crapware installed.

Finally I suggest you look into Sweet FX, it seems to handle AA better than, the games AA and the vid cards AA choices. Especially if turning things off helps with F/S. 2 separate threads out on subject.

You have a Ferrari on a dirt track so to speak....................just need some tuning for the game. Remember its an old game, coded for old hardware.
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Re: Bad performance
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2014, 09:58:54 PM »
I have AH graphics totally maxed out.

Downloading sweet FX to check it out

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Re: Bad performance
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2014, 10:11:05 PM »
I understand you feel that such a machine should be able to run all things at max, but...............Check
AH only works with 2 cores............altho windows will try to spread the threads.
its still a DX 9 game..............might try the DX 9 update for end users.Check
Its servers that are hosting 300+ players......make sure your NIC is setup right, and your router if you use one. What is this?
How many processes are running? You using W8?I run 2 games at the same time.. Eve online on 1 screen and AH on the other. AH has the same performance even when eve is off.. And no uneeded proccesses are running as the computer is brand new has been running for 2 days.
A prebuilt machine could have a lot of crapware installed. I custom build it part by part so no prebuild bull :P

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Re: Bad performance
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2014, 02:05:46 AM »
I have AH graphics totally maxed out.
If you have the Environment Map slider at Full Update, that might well be the culprit. That feature is a huge resource hog, very few if any player can have it on full without a noticeable drop in frame rates. Remind you, that is not bad coding by HTC, it's in the nature of the feature. Reduce it by a notch or two to see if it helps.


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Re: Bad performance
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2014, 06:11:45 AM »
There is not a video card made which can handle full environmental updates for each frame without suffering performance issues.  Real time environmental updates are the single most demanding graphic feature which can be done.
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Re: Bad performance
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2014, 05:33:03 PM »
I understand you feel that such a machine should be able to run all things at max, but...............Check
AH only works with 2 cores............altho windows will try to spread the threads.
its still a DX 9 game..............might try the DX 9 update for end users.Check
Its servers that are hosting 300+ players......make sure your NIC is setup right, and your router if you use one. What is this?
How many processes are running? You using W8?I run 2 games at the same time.. Eve online on 1 screen and AH on the other. AH has the same performance even when eve is off.. And no uneeded proccesses are running as the computer is brand new has been running for 2 days.
A prebuilt machine could have a lot of crapware installed. I custom build it part by part so no prebuild bull :P

NIC= Network Interface Card, this is the device that connects you to the internet. The port where your Ethernet cable plugs. You could be using the onboard NIC type or a PCI NIC type. If you are using PCI, and have an onboard Lan, make sure onboard Lan is disabled in bios. Your prolly alright with this but your Lan does have options, flow control, green functions, interrupt moderation.................

You say you run 2 games at once, maybe 1 is taking priority..................... ....

Your card is extremely high end, yet AH does not use PHYSX, CUDA. Disable CUDA for AH in profiles. The modern games is what your card is meant for.

W7 will use over 40 processes, new build, maybe more. Call up the task manager and see how much is running in background. I turns things off or switched it to manual. TBH the machine should be able to handle it but............

Biz and Skuzz pointed out the big F/S killer, turn it off. You really do not need it. I have most things ticked on, in graphic settings but the update slider is rolled down, I did play with it but even the 1st notch gave me F/S loss big time. I could only use the 1st level of AA in video settings. Going more affected F/S big time. Not enough vid card ram, you have 3.3x me tho.
Now using Sweet FX, I get the best AA look I ever had before, with zero performance issues.

DL, cpu-z and gpu-z, it will give you some hardware intel. Try using Latency Monitor, it will tell you if your machine can handle realtime stuff. All freeware. Again your prolly OK but you might as well know if your hardware is performing properly.
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Re: Bad performance
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2014, 06:40:50 PM »
I see two potential causes, one already covered by Bizman (i.e. the environmental slider set to full) and the fact that you're running two games at the same time.  Also remember, Aces High is more CPU intensive than it is GPU, so it's not really a good idea to run two games at the same time and then expect Aces High to run at 100fps+.

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Re: Bad performance
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2014, 06:18:26 AM »
Yes, having two games vie for the resources of the computer will cause problems.
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Re: Bad performance
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2014, 08:43:31 PM »
I mentioned I sometimes run 2 games at the same time. But wether bolth ar eopen or just one there is 0 difference in FPS or perforamnce.  :salute

I will try taking down that Update slider and see what that does.

Thanks for the input everyone!

And I mean next to the new gen Intle i7's my CPU is the most poweful CPU I have ever used. Comboed with the Liquid Cooling With 2 games running and a movie running on my 3rd screen it barely passes 30 degrees and 30% usage...

Ill try the suggestions and get back to you all :airplane:

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Re: Bad performance
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2014, 06:21:28 AM »
FPS is not the lone factor in performance of a game.  It is also about resource issues, which can manifest in different ways.

Aces High will dynamically scale back if resources are not immediately available.  Loss of bump mapping is the first thing to do.  If you have environment mapping enabled, you can see the loss of bump mapping very easily.

If you enable everything, in the current game, Aces High can chew through 3GB of video RAM, quite easily.
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Re: Bad performance
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2014, 11:57:11 AM »
I mentioned I sometimes run 2 games at the same time. But wether bolth ar eopen or just one there is 0 difference in FPS or perforamnce.  :salute

I will try taking down that Update slider and see what that does.

Thanks for the input everyone!

And I mean next to the new gen Intle i7's my CPU is the most poweful CPU I have ever used. Comboed with the Liquid Cooling With 2 games running and a movie running on my 3rd screen it barely passes 30 degrees and 30% usage...

Ill try the suggestions and get back to you all :airplane:

you mean netflix? 

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Re: Bad performance
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2014, 12:14:26 PM »
I have ran the slider halfway and can go to 3/4s but to tell you the truth, I saw little benefit.  Start with it off then go up. 

Considering the trouble the slider causes, I would think HTC would either eliminate the slider or reduce its thirst for video power.  It  doesn't make sense to have a level that no one can use.

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Re: Bad performance
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2014, 03:11:45 AM »
I have ran the slider halfway and can go to 3/4s but to tell you the truth, I saw little benefit.  Start with it off then go up. 

Considering the trouble the slider causes, I would think HTC would either eliminate the slider or reduce its thirst for video power.  It  doesn't make sense to have a level that no one can use.

randy, just because it's there it doesnt mean you have to climb it.


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