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Offline cody1947

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Re: Need skins for a group in England that wants to honor a B-17
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2014, 08:38:17 AM »
Hornet - My e-mail is listed above can you send me an E-mail there?

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Re: Need skins for a group in England that wants to honor a B-17
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2014, 09:16:20 AM »
The game may be a fantasy, but the people that play, are quite real.  Excellent job sir.  We may even get a few new players our of this.
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Re: Need skins for a group in England that wants to honor a B-17
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2014, 10:00:59 AM »
I assume you do re-enactments of missions. How does this re-enactment work? Is there some way I can watch or see what is going on?

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« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2014, 11:11:19 AM »
I assume you do re-enactments of missions. How does this re-enactment work? Is there some way I can watch or see what is going on?

This community does recreate and participate in historical battles.  On Friday nights you will find several hundred people flying under orders to make these battles as real as possible.  Not all of these missions turn out as they did in history however.  They are set up as they mostly were historically but the outcome is not always the same.  This is a fantastic game.  I invite you and your friends to join us.  You can even open an account and get the first 2 weeks for free.  The learning curve is rather steep.  It will take time to become proficient.  FYI, you can also join a bomber as a gunner during these battles which will certainly put you in the middle of the fray with a limited skill set.  I am a member of a Lutwaffe squad, JG11.  We immerse ourselves in the role we play and I must tell you, there is nothing quite like flying along with 25 of my squad mates, hunting for the enemy.  Many times we will engage many dozens of bombers, protected by their escorts at high altitude.  It gets very busy, you get completely lost in the moment and can feel the history come alive around you.

Imagine, you and your friends, taking that beautiful bird that was created for you here into battle.
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Re: Need skins for a group in England that wants to honor a B-17
« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2014, 11:49:29 AM »
I am not skilled in the use of computer games. May have to hand that job over to the Grandson. However I was wondering if you get a mission can it be placed on a video if seen from one aircraft? I would love to show that at our next re-union of the "Swamp Fire" Crews and families gathering. The best mission they were on was a historical first & would seem perfect for your skilled players.
The Grapefruit Mission was the first time a flying bomb was used by U.S. forces in combat against Cologne, Germany. It was a gyro controlled 2000lb flying bomb. The mission took place on 28 May 1944.
60 aircraft from three Bomb Groups 303rd, 483rd and the 379th followed a 1000 plane raid into the Ruhr Valley. One of the 379th BG aircraft aborted due to bad oil. The other 59 set up their attack positions. There were more fighter escorts at this one spot than any other time of the war. The sky was crowded with them guarding this pay load from being captured. The three groups of the 41st CBW dropped 109 of the 2,000-lb. Glide Bombs. The Bombing started at 13:08 hours from 19,500  to 20,000 feet at an indicated airspeed of 140 mph. The aircraft were put in a 1,000 to 1,500-foot-per-minute dive for 90 to 120 seconds, losing 1,900 feet and building up an airspeed of at least 191 mph. It was a challenge to get the proper speed (191 to 200 mph), an altitude no less than 18,000 ft before the Glide Bombs were released from their under wing carriages. After bomb release, a left turn was made and the Combat Wing reassembled at 19,000 feet. They were Approximately 20 to 25 miles from target.

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Re: Need skins for a group in England that wants to honor a B-17
« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2014, 11:56:11 AM »

I am not skilled in the use of computer games. May have to hand that job over to the Grandson. However I was wondering if you get a mission can it be placed on a video if seen from one aircraft? I would love to show that at our next re-union of the "Swamp Fire" Crews and families gathering. The best mission they were on was a historical first & would seem perfect for your skilled players.
The Grapefruit Mission was the first time a flying bomb was used by U.S. forces in combat against Cologne, Germany. It was a gyro controlled 2000lb flying bomb. The mission took place on 28 May 1944.
60 aircraft from three Bomb Groups 303rd, 483rd and the 379th followed a 1000 plane raid into the Ruhr Valley. One of the 379th BG aircraft aborted due to bad oil. The other 59 set up their attack positions. There were more fighter escorts at this one spot than any other time of the war. The sky was crowded with them guarding this pay load from being captured. The three groups of the 41st CBW dropped 109 of the 2,000-lb. Glide Bombs. The Bombing started at 13:08 hours from 19,500  to 20,000 feet at an indicated airspeed of 140 mph. The aircraft were put in a 1,000 to 1,500-foot-per-minute dive for 90 to 120 seconds, losing 1,900 feet and building up an airspeed of at least 191 mph. It was a challenge to get the proper speed (191 to 200 mph), an altitude no less than 18,000 ft before the Glide Bombs were released from their under wing carriages. After bomb release, a left turn was made and the Combat Wing reassembled at 19,000 feet. They were Approximately 20 to 25 miles from target.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMpZSSjtv6Y

A first person video of one staffel of JG11 taking on over 100 enemy Mustangs, Thunderbolts and B-17's.

Enjoy.  Soundtrack begins a few moments in.

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Re: Need skins for a group in England that wants to honor a B-17
« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2014, 12:47:35 PM »
That was very interesting. So all of those other aircraft were being flown by someone else somewhere else. looks very interesting. I know all the kids, nephews and Grandkids would be interested. Can you make videos of a planned mission or are all of your missions competition game only style?

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Re: Need skins for a group in England that wants to honor a B-17
« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2014, 12:52:00 PM »
That was very interesting. So all of those other aircraft were being flown by someone else somewhere else. looks very interesting. I know all the kids, nephews and Grandkids would be interested. Can you make videos of a planned mission or are all of your missions competition game only style?


Yes...every plane, tank, LV, PT boats...all other players from around the world.  Connected through radio and text.  That video was from Main Arena action...where anything goes.

Other events...Historical Missions are flown regularly in separate Arena's and presented and created by player volunteers.  Look around You tube there...there is thousands of movies from the game.

You can make videos of any kind of action or mission you like.

Salute.


EDIT:  And don't sell yourself short, Cody.  One gentleman in my squadron will be celebrating his 84th birthday next month.

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Re: Need skins for a group in England that wants to honor a B-17
« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2014, 01:45:00 PM »
Sent you an email so you have my email address now, so the b-17 is finished now? I did not know if I put to much brown on the engines, what do you think and where the rest of the marking OK?

I am happy for you to pass on my email address
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Re: Need skins for a group in England that wants to honor a B-17
« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2014, 02:18:58 PM »
Hornet
I suppose this is like any artwork - It's never completed by the artist because we always see something else to do on it. The folks it was meant for liked them. However, I have already relayed your contact info to them and if you guys want to talk further on it, then you can. This way it skips another person's perception(s). The markings are reflective of 379th BG for that time period when 44-8198 was active and repainted with the new squadron codes. She was originally with the 524th BS and then transferred to the 526th BS early 1945.
Like I said my Dad's Ground Crew Chief once worked on this aircraft and at first thought it was a real photo of her at first. We had him and his son on a video chat the other night and showed it to him. He was real pleased to hear about you guys and what you're doing.
Thanks Hornet job well done in my book!

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Re: Need skins for a group in England that wants to honor a B-17
« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2014, 04:26:13 PM »
This come from your site. I need the actual bomb squad that our skin is meant to represent so which one is ours?   

 44-8198
                                         525th BS
                                   Fuselage Code LF/H
                      Pictured here with the Moates Crew
                     This aircraft survived the war and
                      returned to the United States on
                                    07/13/1945
                      She was sold at auction on
                       01/11 1946 no other record
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Re: Need skins for a group in England that wants to honor a B-17
« Reply #41 on: March 12, 2014, 05:44:18 PM »
What a thoroughly pleasant thread.

Superb work Hornet :aok

Agreed.  Pure class Hornet.   :aok

May just be a game to some but to most it's a way to keep the memory of these hero's alive. 
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Re: Need skins for a group in England that wants to honor a B-17
« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2014, 06:06:16 PM »
Sorry hornet my bad eyes had me transferring another aircraft's data when I typed that on the site. Thanks for catching that. I have made the changes.

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Re: Need skins for a group in England that wants to honor a B-17
« Reply #43 on: March 12, 2014, 06:24:53 PM »
Agreed.  Pure class Hornet.   :aok
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Re: Need skins for a group in England that wants to honor a B-17
« Reply #44 on: March 12, 2014, 06:33:44 PM »
My friends.  We could do as these fine folks want.  We could do a custom arena, fly the historical mission that they want to see and film it.  It would not have to be a battle but rather a pre-determined outcome just to get it on film so they could watch it.

                   Or

We could do a snapshot, setting the pieces in play and letting the players determine the outcome with their gameplay as we do in other snapshot's, scenario's and FSO's, and film that for him.

We have exellent fim makers here.  Either situation could have multiple films from multiple players to be edited down to portray the battle well.

I have limited skills or organizational abilities.  I would be willing to spend some time flying it for them.
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