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Offline BnZs

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Minor Stutters
« on: February 27, 2014, 04:51:38 PM »
I am having some minor stutters, particularly when I roll the plane quickly while looking at the ground. My FR doesn't really drop while this is going on, I'm usually at 85 and hardly ever below 60. Any ideas?
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Re: Minor Stutters
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2014, 05:15:40 PM »
Quote from: BnZs on February 27, 2014, 04:51:38 PM
I am having some minor stutters, particularly when I roll the plane quickly while looking at the ground. My FR doesn't really drop while this is going on, I'm usually at 85 and hardly ever below 60. Any ideas?

Input lag perhaps.
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Re: Minor Stutters
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2014, 05:41:31 PM »
Quote from: BluBerry on February 27, 2014, 05:15:40 PM
Input lag perhaps.

Whazzat? And how do I fix?
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Re: Minor Stutters
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2014, 05:42:27 PM »
I realize what I said earlier was misleading...my FR often *does* drop when something like this occurs, but only from 85 down to 70 or so.
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Re: Minor Stutters
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2014, 06:06:04 PM »
 BnZ, it could be several things such as skins loading or lack of resources but I have to ask what type of monitor are you using and do you have Vsync enabled?

  I suspect Skuzzy would need to see a Dxdiag printout for your machine to help solve the problem.




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Re: Minor Stutters
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2014, 06:09:30 PM »
Quote from: morfiend on February 27, 2014, 06:06:04 PM
BnZ, it could be several things such as skins loading or lack of resources but I have to ask what type of monitor are you using and do you have Vsync enabled?
I don't think it can be skins loading, because it happens in the absence of other players as well. Like I say, it seems most likely to happen when doing a fast roll looking sideways or up through the canopy.
21" CRT, and yes I do have Vsync enabled.

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Re: Minor Stutters
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2014, 06:45:01 PM »
Quote from: BnZs on February 27, 2014, 05:41:31 PM
Whazzat? And how do I fix?

Input lag is where if you dip x amount of frames below the refresh rate of your monitor (just 5 or 6 frames for a moment for instance), you can end up with choppy play or frame-rates being halved momentarily.

This is normally due to poorly written code in other games I have played.

Basically when you move your joystick (or input) and lets say roll the aircraft, the code in a game which is poorly written will make your frames per second ( FPS) dip, then you see stuttering.
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Re: Minor Stutters
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2014, 06:47:26 PM »
 I suspected a CRT but thought Nah everyone uses LCD's these days..... :devil


  I would post a DXdiag,this will give the imformation Skuzzy or others will need to help assist with this problem,if you're not sure how to I think there;s a sticky at the top of the forum on how to.

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Re: Minor Stutters
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2014, 05:54:43 AM »
If your refresh rate is 120 and you are dropping down that low then start by minimizing your video setting then work your way up.  Move that slider all the way to the right for sure.
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Re: Minor Stutters
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2014, 06:31:10 AM »
A DXDIAG output would be helpful.  This could be a resource related issue.  A DXDIAG output might help pin point that.
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Re: Minor Stutters
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2014, 08:43:49 AM »
Quote from: Randy1 on February 28, 2014, 05:54:43 AM
If your refresh rate is 120 and you are dropping down that low then start by minimizing your video setting then work your way up.  Move that slider all the way to the right for sure.

Refresh rate is usually 85, that is as fast as the monitor will go. Skuzzy, I'll have that report for you over the weekend.
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Re: Minor Stutters
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2014, 03:51:05 PM »
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Time of this report: 2/28/2014, 15:43:14
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Re: Minor Stutters
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2014, 04:27:26 PM »
Just curious, ever run your monitor at native resolution?
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Re: Minor Stutters
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2014, 04:56:51 PM »
BnZ,

  Do you have hirez installed and if so what is your maximum texture size set to?

  That vidcard is pretty old and wasnt a topend card when new,with only 512mb of Vram I would think you'd need to uncheck most the boxes in the advanced settings.

  Try moving the slider in graphic details to faster,set max texture size to 512 and test to see if the stutters go away.


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Re: Minor Stutters
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2014, 06:48:02 PM »
Roger, but is getting occasional stutters *without* the frames dropping badly normal?

Quote from: morfiend on February 28, 2014, 04:56:51 PM
BnZ,

  Do you have hirez installed and if so what is your maximum texture size set to?

  That vidcard is pretty old and wasnt a topend card when new,with only 512mb of Vram I would think you'd need to uncheck most the boxes in the advanced settings.

  Try moving the slider in graphic details to faster,set max texture size to 512 and test to see if the stutters go away.


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