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Offline LCADolby

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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #90 on: March 08, 2014, 06:18:11 AM »
adding AS versions of the 109s would be of great help bridge the gap to the Allied Escort Fighters.

109E3, E7, F2 as an added bonus
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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #91 on: March 08, 2014, 06:32:56 AM »
Spad!!!
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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #92 on: March 08, 2014, 07:33:55 AM »
I have put a lot of thought into this and I am convinced the best new addition for the game and the community wod be a brand spanking new P-47D23 :airplane:
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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #93 on: March 08, 2014, 07:49:22 AM »
Spad!!!
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Yeah, the lack of the SPAD in WWI is pretty glaring.

This thread has become eto centric. There are a lot Eastern pacific and Australians playing, or were, I don't hear them as often on the Knight side as I used to.

And I agree. Western Europe really doesn't need any particular attention right now, and arguably neither does the Eastern Front. You could make some arguments for the Italians, but one that's mediated by any scenario legitimately being able to fill gaps with German aircraft. The Japanese plane set is still full of glaring holes that there's no substitute for. They have no mid/late-war carrier bombers (B6N/D4Y). No high-altitude fighters/interceptors (Ki-100, J2M). No heavy fighter (Ki-45).
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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #94 on: March 08, 2014, 08:12:34 AM »
No new planes. Focus on updating the older models.

As much as there a couple of new planes I'd like to see. I have to agree with this. With the magnificence of the new terrain and water graphics. Im afraid everything that moves or fights may look just a wee bit out of place
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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #95 on: March 08, 2014, 08:13:50 AM »
I have put a lot of thought into this and I am convinced the best new addition for the game and the community wod be a brand spanking new P-47D23 :airplane:

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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #96 on: March 08, 2014, 08:34:40 AM »
The KI-27 Nate, while not being particularly useful in the LW would give 2 of our existing planes, I-16 and P40C, their historical opponent, and would be usefull in SEA, AVA, and in missions.


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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #97 on: March 08, 2014, 08:58:18 AM »
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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #98 on: March 08, 2014, 09:10:12 AM »
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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #99 on: March 08, 2014, 09:19:18 AM »
Yeah, the lack of the SPAD in WWI is pretty glaring.
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100th anniversary of the outbreak of the Great War just around the corner. Some more attention may be turned to it in the next few years, making a viable WWI planeset a possible attractant.
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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #100 on: March 08, 2014, 10:02:42 AM »
I played WarBirds.  There wasn't a MiG-3 in it while HiTech and Pyro were there.  Maybe it was added afterwards, but it wasn't in there when they were there.

Your list of armaments looks very suspiciously like Il-2's list of armaments, many or most of which were on paper only and never saw flight, let alone action.  Some Russians hacking WarBirds and adding Russian aircraft is hardly a reliable source either, just as I wouldn't trust American, British, German or Japanese players to not add every one off or might have been superplane for their favored nation either.

I've never played IL2.

Over 300 Mig3 were armed with 2x ubs 12.7 in the cowling with 700 rounds each.

55 had 2x 20mm shvak in the cowling simply replacing the two UBS 12.7 shown in the picture below.

That's more than the total production of the TA152.



Over 800 were made with 5 guns (3x 12.7 ubs and 2x 7.62)



They experimented with many different configurations and often threw them into combat.......sometimes in numbers higher than the total production of planes we have in game.

I still can't find the 3x ubs in the nose or 2 ubk in the wings that I remember but I haven't searched much.

The purpose was to refute the "weak guns" claim because it just isn't true.




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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #101 on: March 08, 2014, 10:30:35 AM »
I've never played IL2.

Over 300 Mig3 were armed with 2x ubs 12.7 in the cowling with 700 rounds each.

55 had 2x 20mm shvak in the cowling simply replacing the two UBS 12.7 shown in the picture below.

That's more than the total production of the TA152.

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Over 800 were made with 5 guns (3x 12.7 ubs and 2x 7.62)

(Image removed from quote.)

They experimented with many different configurations and often threw them into combat.......sometimes in numbers higher than the total production of planes we have in game.

I still can't find the 3x ubs in the nose or 2 ubk in the wings that I remember but I haven't searched much.

The purpose was to refute the "weak guns" claim because it just isn't true.

Per Brooke's post here the gondolas that you show a photo of were usually removed:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,359870.msg4776341.html#msg4776341

Also, referencing the Ta152 is kinda silly as it benefited from reused artwork from the Fw190s.  The MiG-3 wouldn't benefit from that and, yes, it would be undergunned, particularly considering it would need to rely on BnZ and not sustained tracking shots like the Spit I, Hurri I and Ki-43 can obtain due to their turning ability.
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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #102 on: March 08, 2014, 01:07:31 PM »
and arguably neither does the Eastern Front.

We don't have the main Soviet fighters from 1941 to 1943.

The Yak-1 would be best choice (more produced, and a more-popular fighter).

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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #103 on: March 08, 2014, 01:26:54 PM »
We've reached the point (some time back) where equipment updates become an historical event hole filling and immersion enhancement issue more than anything else. I think Brooke, Tmetal and Sax are onto something.

I'd like to see the next two planes modeled be the TBD and Yak-1 (in that order). Other details like IJN CV and cruiser variants would be nice.

I'm sure everyone is also looking to the upcoming graphics enhancements.

And .... of course .... the Sparviero.  :D

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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #104 on: March 08, 2014, 08:09:00 PM »
We don't have the main Soviet fighters from 1941 to 1943.

The Yak-1 would be best choice (more produced, and a more-popular fighter).

If they were going to introduce the Yak-1, they would have done so with the recent Yak update. I don't understand why the Yak-1 would be desperately needed. The Yak-7 was a two seat derivative of the I-26, which was the prototype of the Yak-1. In terms of performance, the current Yak-7 is very similar to the Yak-1. It has a second MG, so is better armed (not much better). Easy to create, so there's not the labor of a new plane. Still, little different from the Yak-7....

TBD... Sure, it was significant in the first 6 months of the war. Just remember that the TBF was used at Midway too (and fared no better than the TBD). Aside from occasional scenarios, this will be the Queen Bee of Hanger Queens. Almost no bang for the programming buck..

I don't believe that we will see either any time soon, if ever.
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