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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #135 on: March 10, 2014, 05:25:08 PM »
Some historical stats for US BB's and CV's -- see section "Ship Hardness" at the end of this document:
http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/200706_husky/rules.html

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Research on ship hardness of battleships is based on what it took to sink battleships at Pearl Harbor and what it took to sink US carriers throughout WWII. The battleship data is from http://plasma.nationalgeographic.com/pearlharbor/history/pearlharbor_facts.html , and the carrier data is from Wikipedia on various carriers. For carriers that weren't sunk, some of them survived mutliple attacks separated by time or by ability to repair some damage in between attacks. For those, I list only the estimated most-damaging attack that they survived and not all the attacks. The torpedo typically carried by the Japanese B5N "Kate" torpedo bomber was the type 91 torpedo, which typically had 529 lbs of explosive. The largest torpedo typically carried by Japanese submarines was the type 95 torpedo, which had 893 lbs of explosive. The most-common bomb carried by the Japanese D3A "Val" divebomber had 551 lbs of explosive.

Battleship Damage Taken -- Result
California (BB-44) 2 torpedo hits; 1 bomb hit -- sunk
Maryland (BB-46) 2 bomb hits -- not sunk
Oklahoma (BB-37) 5 torpedo hits -- sunk
Tennessee (BB-43) 2 bomb hits -- not sunk
West Virginia (BB-48) 6 torpedo hits; 2 bomb hits -- sunk
Arizona (BB-39) 1 torpedo hit; 8 bomb hits -- sunk
Pennsylvania (BB-38) 2 bomb hits -- not sunk
Nevada (BB-36) 1 torpedo hit; 6 bomb hits -- not sunk
Utah (BB-31) 2 torpedo hits -- sunk

Carrier Damage Taken -- Result
Lexington (CV-2) 2 torpedoes; 3 bombs -- sunk
Saratoga (CV-3) 6 bombs -- not sunk
Yorktown (CV-5) 2 torpedoes; 3 bombs -- sunk
Enterprise (CV-6) 3 bombs -- not sunk
Wasp (CV-7) 2 torpedoes -- sunk
Hornet (CV-8) 3 torpedoes; 5 bombs -- sunk
Essex (CV-9) kamikaze -- not sunk
Yorktown (CV-10) 1 bomb -- not sunk
Intrepid (CV-11) 1 torpedo -- not sunk
Franklin (CV-13) kamikaze -- not sunk

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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #136 on: March 10, 2014, 06:02:50 PM »
It appears as if only one british carrier was sunk by aircraft, that being HMS Hermes by the Japanese, whilst five were torpedoed by German U-boats, one by engagement by german surface vessels, the last from internal explosion of unknown cause.

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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #137 on: March 10, 2014, 06:32:54 PM »
Adding British CV's:

Glorious, numerous hits from naval gunfire, sunk
Courageous, 2 torps, sunk
Furious, 1 bomb (small), not sunk
Eagle, 4 torps, sunk
Hermes, multitude of bomb hits, sunk
Ark Royal, 1 torp, sunk
Unicorn, no hits, not sunk
Illustrious, 6 bombs, not sunk
Formidable, 3 kamikazes, not sunk
Victorious, 1 kamikaze, not sunk
Indomitable, 2 bombs, not sunk
Implacable, no hits, not sunk
Indefatigable, 1 kamikaze, not sunk


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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #138 on: March 10, 2014, 06:47:34 PM »
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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #139 on: March 10, 2014, 07:14:03 PM »
Franklin was bombed, not kamikazed.  The Japanese dive bomber that hit her also escaped.  One or two bomb hits.
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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #140 on: March 10, 2014, 08:13:10 PM »
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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #141 on: March 10, 2014, 09:22:49 PM »
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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #143 on: March 10, 2014, 09:38:42 PM »
Franklin was bombed, not kamikazed.  The Japanese dive bomber that hit her also escaped.  One or two bomb hits.

It took a kamikaze hit near Leyte, but you are right about the major attack on it being two bombs, and not kamikaze.

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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #144 on: March 10, 2014, 10:45:37 PM »
I would like to see the following in no particular order:
Bristol Beaufighter
Westland Whirlwind
Gloster Meteor
Updated Bf110
SU-100
SdKfz 234 "puma"
IS-2 soviet tank
Kawanishi H8k
KV-1 and KV-2 soviet tanks
He177
Mitsubishi J2M
Fiat G.55





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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #145 on: March 11, 2014, 05:08:58 AM »
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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #146 on: March 11, 2014, 07:33:02 AM »
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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #147 on: March 11, 2014, 11:21:09 AM »
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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #148 on: March 11, 2014, 02:18:00 PM »
If the next ride added isn't the Ki-100 I shall cry tears of blood as it seems to work well for the GVers.

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Re: Next new plane
« Reply #149 on: March 11, 2014, 07:18:31 PM »
Then next plane is going to the Defiant.