the reality to you all that does nothing not but complaining.

[BluBerry]

I would love to get into a back n forth here, as I am in the mood for it.. but I shall step back from here now as to avoid taking this to far off course.

Enjoy trying to prove that internet reflects skill. Peace. 

[hotcoffe]

ok before people get anymore confused let me try to explain this quickly :

Lets say you expecting to recieve 10 packages:
Think as TCP/IP: As package which a has 5 items in it and a checklist, when you receive the package you need to the go through the check list and make sure all the 5 items are in the package.If not the sender will send you the package again before sending the next package. Also the sender has to make sure that you receive the package , if you don't receive it , the sender will keep sending same package until you receive it (you either receive a damaged package or you don't receive it at all and the sender keeps sending the same package, thus the latency lag or what ever you want to call it occurs. (until time out where the sender stops trying))
UDP: Sender sends the package and does not care if you receive it or not  or it is damaged, it just keeps sending the next package.

[hotcoffe]

I would love to get into a back n forth here, as I am in the mood for it.. but I shall step back from here now as to avoid taking this to far off course.

Enjoy trying to prove that internet reflects skill. Peace. 

here since you have not bother to read it at the beginning of the topic i ll post it again :

Well obviously you miss understood it, you can improve on your skills become a good pilot decrease the rate of your deaths etc... look at vudu15 for example. What i am try to say that people are complaining about stuff that has nothing to with the their skill etc... like rubber bullet issue or dropping a bomb right on top of gv, while gv still sits there in the bomb crater etc... list goes on... 

[Zoney]

I would love to get into a back n forth here, as I am in the mood for it.. but I shall step back from here now as to avoid taking this to far off course.

Enjoy trying to prove that internet reflects skill. Peace. 

That's because you're the MAN, Bluberry, and you've learned that when you approach a bridge with a Troll, it's so much easier to just cross a different bridge.  Well done sir 

[Megalodon]

That's because you're the MAN, Bluberry, and you've learned that when you approach a bridge with a Troll, it's so much easier to just cross a different bridge.  Well done sir  

 Nice troll  


Edit:

You just made me think of something.... I have some people that keep wanting to cross my land,  to do so they have to jump my fence and sneak through.

I have asked several of them not to trespass across my property as is disturbs my dogs and It's my property. For some reason they think they just have a right to a shortcut instead of going around...Well after a few years and the cops back and forth a few times.... they still seem to think its their right to take the short cut instead of going around.

So I was talking to a buddy the other day and found my answer.  I just slathered some boat grease on the top rail of the black fence and sat back and watched....

Problem solved,

[Skuzzy]

so you took it one lvl up , but in essence if you have Ping package loss you are almost guaranteed to have TCP/IP package loss or latency ,since TCP/IP is all or nothing... its more or less the same logic in losseless data compression and lossly data compression (TCP/IP and UDP) .

Not quite accurate.  ICMP ECHO packet loss does not guarantee TCP packet loss.  It all depends on the nature of the ICMP ECHO packet loss.  Most routers are configured to give ICMP messages a low priority as they are mostly used for error messages.  Some routers ignore the ICMP ECHO message, like the one before the last hop to us.

TCP is all or nothing, but it has built-in retries and timeouts to help insure delivery.

A proper comparison is, if TCP/IP packets are not being delivered, then there is a very good chance, nothing is going to get delivered on that connection.

There was a thread a few weeks back on connection  I noticed one that really stood out, I believe it was "Mensa's", and had a higher upload then download at really very high figures connected from the UofFlorida I think.


If you have a higher up load then down, do you have to shoot WAY behind the guy instead? Or does it not matter?

The connection speed/latency/variance has nothing to do with your aim at an object on your screen.

[Megalodon]

Not quite accurate.  ICMP ECHO packet loss does not guarantee TCP packet loss.  It all depends on the nature of the ICMP ECHO packet loss.  Most routers are configured to give ICMP messages a low priority as they are mostly used for error messages.  Some routers ignore the ICMP ECHO message, like the one before the last hop to us.

TCP is all or nothing, but it has built-in retries and timeouts to help insure delivery.

A proper comparison is, if TCP/IP packets are not being delivered, then there is a very good chance, nothing is going to get delivered on that connection.

The connection speed/latency/variance has nothing to do with your aim at an object on your screen.

 Ty

[guncrasher]

I would love to get into a back n forth here, as I am in the mood for it.. but I shall step back from here now as to avoid taking this to far off course.

Enjoy trying to prove that internet reflects skill. Peace. 

what the op is trying to say is that there's a bunch of guys with crappy computers and crappy connections that keep complaining how thre's no way they could have missed that shot and that the game is full of "rubber bullets"... and so on.

and a good portion of these people always claim to have "superior skills" above the average player base but the game itself is holding them back.

to those he's just giving an advise to either fix whatever is wrong be it internet or computer or both or shut up and enjoy the game.



semp

[zack1234]

To solve your problem fly the Yak9T  close up to the bandit and bam!!!

Big fat cannon shell will show them who is boss

[FLS]

bellow ,you can see how the frame rate effects what you see. Also on top of this like another 2 frames loss per second lets say if you having average of 200ping.
now lets say under ideal situation you would aim where the target will be in 2 secs.
lets say you have 15frame rate and 2secs latency(total latency), so you must now predict and aim 4secs ahead and hope that your target wont change direction during that time.  

Believeing that the internet affects where to aim is a common error but as Skuzzy said you only have to consider lag when you are being shot at. Since you are shooting at a target on your PC there is no lag. But you only get shot at by other players on their PCs. This is why enemies often have a better shot at you then they appear to. Even if 2 players have different connections they both have to deal with their combined lag when fighting. Each one has the same disadvantage when they're defensive.

[LCADolby]

My ping is around 150... I better give up dreaming of being a "super ace".

 

Ping is a pain, having to wait that extra second for the server to destroy the guy you shoot, wasting ammo.
For some reason a lot of 30mm have been fired then snatched by the internet and hidden it a cupboard rather than making the enemy go boom.. People say that they aren't FE side but Server side 
Not to mention defending, you can be killed, even though you watched the guy miss firing 100 yards off you.

If only Fibre Optic was as fast a copper... I miss my copper wire connection, even thought the bandwidth wasn't so good, it was 10% faster for ping.
 

[Hoplite]

To solve your problem fly the Yak9T  close up to the bandit and bam!!!

Big fat cannon shell will show them who is boss

110G has two slightly less fat cannons....and two relatively slim ones.  It is a tater salad coming out of the nose! 

Yak9T has a bigger cannon....but it's just overcompensating for other......ahhhh...*ahem*......deficiencies.   

[zack1234]

The 110 is German and smells of leather shorts and big fat sausage

[LCADolby]

leather shorts and big fat sausage

*Steptoe and sons voice*
You diiirty old maaan!

[MrRiplEy[H]]

the reality is this is a computer game and does not matter how good you are in ACM etc... everything comes down to 2 things FPS and Ping , if you are having fps less than 60 and ping above than 50 don't even bother to become a super ace... Where frame rate determines your sync with actually what you looking on the screen and ping determines what you do see on your screen and actually whats being registered on the server side (thus the player with lower ping has a advantage which like looking into future compared to player with lower ping)

so just enjoy the game and stop complaining about rubber bullets , impossible maneuvers others pulling or how easily you take damage while other players seems indestructible.

You don't understand how the net code works. Anything you hit on your front end will get the damage. Lag only makes judging angles harder on your end so if you or the opponent lags a lot you may get hit even when his nose points away.