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Offline SmokinLoon

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Re: Lancaster Divebombers
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2014, 06:29:45 PM »
What the hell does dolby have to do with this?

Dolby is the guy with the unicorn suit on, nothing more.  Ignore him.  Focus on the topic at hand.
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Re: Lancaster Divebombers
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2014, 06:46:52 PM »
You know that's hurtful, right!?


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Re: Lancaster Divebombers
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2014, 07:04:18 PM »
Did you know that the tiger tank in that photo was not missed by a bomb? That is not what I would call near, I would call that a hit.

Define high angle, like split-S dive or high angle for a lancaster?

How would you define a high angle for a lanc?  The only lanc's I see bombing GV's are either level or in a pretty shallow dive.

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Re: Lancaster Divebombers
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2014, 07:50:18 PM »
Rolling over into a dive and losing the drones.
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Re: Lancaster Divebombers
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2014, 08:10:50 PM »
I think Rick Astley would like to weigh in on this issue.

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Re: Lancaster Divebombers
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2014, 09:12:44 PM »
I recall there once being a talk on knight country channel of something called the B-17 lanccorgstuka. Some fictional plane plane we make out of B-17's, lancs and a stuka. And a corgis! A cute little puppy!  :)
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Re: Lancaster Divebombers
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2014, 10:48:30 AM »
Best way to clear a camped spawn. Now my favorite is to bring in lancs to a heavily camped spawn at 10k and smash gv's using the bomb sight, I've bagged as much as 7 kills  with the cookie cutter.


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Re: Lancaster Divebombers
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2014, 06:37:22 PM »
And thats great but it has nothing to do with the subject of the thread.
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Re: Lancaster Divebombers
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2014, 07:06:00 PM »
Do know that Lancasters were used by 617 squadron in high angle diving attacks in 1943?



Do you know that a bomb landing near a tank could and did hammer the crew inside and could flip tiger tanks?

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Do we have any records of what altitudes were used when doing divebombing while in heavy bombers?
When I think of heavy bombers, I think of the large b17/b24 raids of mutli altitude bombers flying level in various formations. So when I see one dive-bombing akin to a stuka, I start asking questions.


I think bomb payloads should determine what altitude bombers can release their ordinance.

For example: if we had the Lancaster skip-bomb (I don't know the nick-name/technical name), then the lancaster would be able to release at only certain altitudes and speeds. Like what we have with torpedo bombers.

If you have GP bombs, then you can release at say.. a minimum of 5000 ft and upwards of 35k, so if you are under 5000ft your bombs don't register (like if you drop torpedos too fast, or dropping bombs under the current limit conditions of less than 800ft.)

If you select one (single) bomber (no formation), then you can do violent manuvers. If you select a formation, your turning movements should be.. dulled in a way, at least until you lose your two drones. So we don't have 'skipping/warping" drones, and the 'easy exploits' with that.

I have seen some player take b29s and carpet bomb the V87 spawn, landing nearly 30 kills while being under 2000ft.  :lol

I've said it before, I'll say it again.  I think all heavy bombers shouldn't be able to drop ordinance unless at 5000 ft+, and not be able to do violent manuvers unless they have NO formation.    I have no problems with bombers, I do however have problems with players abusing the loopholes in the system, which is what I am sort of asking for them to fix here.

I don't view this 5000 ft minimum limit any different than the minimum 800ft for bombs to arm that we have now.  Heavy bombers carry more ordinance, and have bombsights.. they have no need to be divebombing (with formation).     If they do NOT have a formation, then I would be more 'merciful' on that, maybe droppig it to 2000ft or something like that.  But at the very least heavy bombers shouldn't be able to do heavy evasive manuvers like that with a formation, without sure.. but not with a formation.


Apologies if this is viewed as a hi-jack.

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Re: Lancaster Divebombers
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2014, 07:13:47 PM »
And thats great but it has nothing to do with the subject of the thread.

I agree, let's get back on topic

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Re: Lancaster Divebombers
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2014, 05:10:03 PM »
hmmm--broken gv mechanics--broken aircraft mechanics--broken cv mechanics--broken vh-town-airfield mechanics--broken mechanic mechanics..where will it end??????????????????????
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Re: Lancaster Divebombers
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2014, 08:57:02 AM »
hmmm--broken gv mechanics--broken aircraft mechanics--broken cv mechanics--broken vh-town-airfield mechanics--broken mechanic mechanics..where will it end??????????????????????

At least have the patience to wait on AH3 / Revamped AH2, when all these problems will be addressed. It's foolish to keep making wishes and comments like these when it has already been announced that HTC is working on things that will address the problems you just listed.
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Re: Lancaster Divebombers
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2014, 09:09:05 AM »
I know the B-17 and B-24 have limits on pitch angles for bomb release -- has to do with the bombs clearing structure as they leave the bomb bay.  Model those restrictions….if exceeding the limit pitch angles then bombs don't drop.
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Re: Lancaster Divebombers
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2014, 09:12:36 AM »
At least have the patience to wait on AH3 / Revamped AH2, when all these problems will be addressed. It's foolish to keep making wishes and comments like these when it has already been announced that HTC is working on things that will address the problems you just listed.

I think he was being sarcastic.

As to the OP, in a perfect world we all have an idea of what we think the game should be about, and how it should be played. What you have to understand is in the "sandbox" that is the Main arena all things are possible and you can do pretty much anything you want that the game mechanics allow, this includes divebombing with a Lanc.

If you want something a bit more realistic, scenarios or FSO might be where the OP should be flying, not the Main arena.

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Re: Lancaster Divebombers
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2014, 09:22:59 AM »
All I see in the MA are Lancasters 'diving' at 25° and everybody scream "Stuka"  :rolleyes:

I have yet to witness sucessfull and efficient 70° formation dive bombing runs in a heavy bomber formation in the MA. Which is odd as I'm told they are occuring all the time
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