Redneck mousetrap

[-ammo-]

It's a mouse/rat people.  kill it anyway you see fit.

[100Coogn]

the fact they fall into anti freeze to drown in poison is pretty effed up. Why not let them fall into an empty pot they cannot escape from and dispose of them in another way.

+1 Very cruel...

Coogan

[smoe]

Barn cats work pretty good and no cleanup needed.

[craz07]

that's a poison.. should not leave that out and about...

[DREDIOCK]

That doesn't mean they have to be subjected to death-by-antifreeze. If you don't want to use live traps to release them elsewhere away from your home, that's fine. But that doesn't mean you can't use a humane kill trap instead.

regardless of how you kill them. Would they be any less dead one way over the other.

Its a rat. Rats spread diseases which are often unkind to humans. Add to that they breed like...well rats.

 Just like worms on a fish hook I really couldnt care less how they feel when they die. Just that they die.

I killed one in my house years ago by pouring a pot of boiling coffee one one I found in my kitchen sink. I'd have smashed it with a club instead but the hot coffee was all I had handy. In the end I really didnt care how it died just THAT it died. I was more bothered by having to wait for another pot of coffee to finish percolating  (anyone remember these?)
 
Then that or how I just killed a rat

Damn kids. The feminisation of the nation continues

[BluBerry]

Damn kids. The feminisation of the nation continues

apparently the douchification of the nation continues as well.

[Saxman]

Damn kids. The feminisation of the nation continues

Who the hell are you calling "kid?" And I pity you if you think not wanting to see any animal suffer needlessly is a sign of "feminisation."

[Bodhi]

I use these traps and have for a very long time.  Do I enjoy the thought of a rodent suffering, no, absolutely not.  It is a point of using something that really works and does not need constant resetting.  The point of the anti-freeze is to eliminate the smell of their rancid little bodies. 

I use it in a hangar, it is what it is, but I'd rather not have to worry about mice nesting in my aircraft and causing issues such as:  eating the wiring harnesses, throwing off weight and balance by packing areas full of crap for nests, urinating and defecating all over the aircraft which causes corrosion, as well as making a general mess everywhere else.  Face it, they are mice and sadly, there is not much else that really works like this.

[Wildcatdad]

Only the first one would starve. every one thereafter would simply feed on the previous

Skyfall anyone?

[Rich46yo]

Im playing for rats and mice. Forgive the size.

On that same list I'll put raccoons and skunks, possums, insects....ect I dont care how they die as long as they do.

[danny76]

regardless of how you kill them. Would they be any less dead one way over the other.

Its a rat. Rats spread diseases which are often unkind to humans. Add to that they breed like...well rats.

 Just like worms on a fish hook I really couldnt care less how they feel when they die. Just that they die.

I killed one in my house years ago by pouring a pot of boiling coffee one one I found in my kitchen sink. I'd have smashed it with a club instead but the hot coffee was all I had handy. In the end I really didnt care how it died just THAT it died. I was more bothered by having to wait for another pot of coffee to finish percolating  (anyone remember these?)
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Then that or how I just killed a rat

Damn kids. The feminisation of the nation continues

I have no problem with killing of vermin. Whether it be insect mammal or people. But whether you did what you claim out of malevolence, or ambivalence, or whether you simply made it up to, in your mind, sound tougher to your percieved piers on a chatroom, nothing and no one deserve to die in terror and abject pain if it can be possibly helped.
I find your post abhorrent.

[homersipes]

I have no problem with killing of vermin. Whether it be insect mammal or people. But whether you did what you claim out of malevolence, or ambivalence, or whether you simply made it up to, in your mind, sound tougher to your percieved piers on a chatroom, nothing and no one deserve to die in terror and abject pain if it can be possibly helped.
I find your post abhorrent.

I have to agree with this.  I know killing them in antifreeze isnt the most humane way to kill them, they proably drown before they die of being poisoned.  I dont like poison and most certainly dont like sticky traps.  When we bought our house the previous owner used dcon all over the place, I took it all out as much as I could find and flushed it down toilet.  There still must be some someplace because we still get an occasional dead mouse stink where they must have died in the wall or someplace. 

The point of the anti-freeze is to eliminate the smell of their rancid little bodies. 

  this I did not know.  I just dont see how this trap is any different than placing dcon out, or any other rat poison.

[NatCigg]

Why use antifreeze when you can use the dip.


Good Idea, thanks for sharing.

The traditional term for men who feel bad for trapping, drowning, and deodorizing mice in a pink pool of propylene glycol is "Ladyboys".  But the new generation calls them "sensitive".

From MSDS of high strength RV antifreeze.
http://images.peakauto.com/Peak%20RV%20marine%20AF%20-100%20Rev%202.pdf11. TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION
Skin: The LD50 for skin absorption in rabbits is >10,000 mg/kg.
Ingestion: The oral LD50 for rats is 20,000-34,000 mg/kg.
Mutagenicity: In vitro mutagenicity studies were negative. Animal mutagenicity studies were negative.
12. ECOLOGICAL INFORMATION
Movement & Partitioning: Based largely or completely on information for similar material(s), i.e., propylene glycol. Bioconcentration potential is low (BCF less than 100 or Log Pow less than 3). Log octanol / water partition coefficient (log Pow) is –0.92. Henry Law Constant (H) is 1.2E-8 atm.m3/mole.
Degradation & Transformation: Based largely or completely on information for similar material(s) i.e., propylene glycol. Biodegradation under aerobic static laboratory conditions is high (BOD20 OR BOD28/Th0D greater than 40%). Biodegradation is expected to be achievable in a secondary wastewater treatment plant. 5-day biochemical oxygen demand (B0D5) is 1.16 p/p. 200-day biochemical oxygen demand (B0D20) is 1.45 p/p. theoretical oxygen demand (TH0D) is calculated to be 1.68 p/p. Inhibitory concentration (IC5O) in OECD Activated Sludge Respiration Inhibition Test (OECD Test No. 209) is greater than 1 gm/L. Degradation is expected in the atmospheric environment within minutes to hours.
Ecotoxicology: Based largely or completely on information for similar material (s), i.e., propylene glycol. Material is practically non-toxic to aquatic organisms on an acute basis (LC50 greater than 100 mg/L in most sensitive species).
Acute LC50 for fathead minnow (Pimephales promelas) is 4,600-54900 mg/L
Acute LC50 for guppy (Poecilia reticulata) is greater than 10000 mg/L.
Acute LC50 for water flea Daphnia magna is 4850-34400 mg/L
Acute LC50 for rainbow trout (Oncorhynchus mykiss) is 44mL/L (about 44000 mg/L)

So... 20-34 grams of product per kg of body weight to kill half a rat population.  thats 2-3% of a mouses body weight to die.  I would need to drink about half a gallon of antifreeze to have a 50% chance of death.  Also, the product degrades readily enough that we can dump it down the drain or on our garden.

[jimson]

I don't really like the idea that the mice will suffer but I am a little tired of worrying about hantavirus when I am poking around in my workshop.

I am building one

Sorry mice, you lose.

[danny76]

Why use antifreeze when you can use the dip.
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The traditional term for men who feel bad for trapping, drowning, and deodorizing mice in a pink pool of propylene glycol is "Ladyboys".  But the new generation calls them "sensitive".

The traditional term for the killing of anything in an unneccessary cruel and unusual manner is "inhumane".

That some apparently consider the fact that it is somehow a demonstration of the epic proportions of their manhoods, to find brutal methods to exterminate what is effectively a living creature with the capacity for fear and to experience pain, beggars the imagination.

These creatures need controlling? Absolutely.

Do they need to suffer a vile demise? Absolutely not, especially considering one of the arguments was that the person setting the trap can't be right arsed to empty more humane ones.