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Offline BreakingBad

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Rat Trap Conundrum
« on: March 31, 2014, 10:17:01 AM »
This weekend I did some spring cleaning in my garage, and discovered I had a rat or two living laaaarge in there this winter. 

So I bought and set a trap and sure enough, next morning a dead rat.  I also see another scurry out from under the bench, so I set the trap again that morning.

We come back in the afternoon and I find the trap has been triggered, but no rat.  The trap is located in the same spot where it was set, and has a tiny sliver of blood on it.  About a foot away, there is another drop of blood about the size of a quarter.  Then about 8-ft away, a larger pool of dried blood, maybe 2-3 quarters size. 

So here is the weird part.  No bloody tracks or trail between pools of blood, and no body.  The second pool of blood is located further into the garage, away from the door and trap, away from the escape route.  I checked everywhere on the floor, nothing.  Now I'm worried the little bastard might have climbed up somewhere to die.   :O

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Re: Rat Trap Conundrum
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2014, 10:27:44 AM »
here try this

 http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,360377.0.html

found this on another page   :D
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Re: Rat Trap Conundrum
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2014, 10:36:28 AM »
here try this

Clever, but seems a little cruel to me.  Although the clap trap one I used looks to have maimed the vermin.  I had figured it was foolproof but I don't know.  Was wondering if anyone else came across this empty rat trap scenario.

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Re: Rat Trap Conundrum
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2014, 10:46:55 AM »
Hopefully you don't have to wait until he's funky to find him. That would stink.

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Re: Rat Trap Conundrum
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2014, 10:47:38 AM »
uh   yeh   rats aren't stupid critters they learn pretty fast.  we had a problem with them in our kitchen. found out they were coming in from under the stove.  so I set up shop at the corner of the counter with my BB gun and put out some pizza left over from the night's dinner and waited.  didn't have to wait half an hour before I killed the first.  took the second about ten min later.  took about an hour before the third got ambitious enough to go see about that pizza.  after that one I guess the rest kinda got the hint that pizza'll kill ya.   :devil
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Re: Rat Trap Conundrum
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2014, 11:58:16 AM »
I was actually playing AH about 2 months ago and I heard this terrible shriek...so I jumped up and ran toward the sounds of terror to find my wife standing in the bathtub...I asked her WTF and through the convulsions she was

 having she pointed under the sink (it is on a freestanding cabinet with about 4" of space underneath it) I looked underneath it and there the little vermin sat, looking at me, taunting me with his whisker twitch...Quickly I shut the

door and put a towel in front of it to keep him from escaping...I armed myself with a plunger, said a quick prayer, and went into battle with the beady eyed terrorist who had just caused my wife a mild stroke...I rattled the plumber's

helper under the cabinet to spook him out and he obliged by streaking out and tried his hardest to make his way up the corner where the tub and wall meet...it was a violent struggle, with me missing several killshots while my wife

cut loose a stream of obscenities about my inability to off the little critter...when the battle was over he was buried at sea, I did not want there to be a grave site for fear of it turning into a place of worship for his followers.
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Re: Rat Trap Conundrum
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2014, 12:17:07 PM »
^^  :rofl

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Re: Rat Trap Conundrum
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2014, 05:29:36 PM »
See Rule 19- Do not place sausage on pizza.
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Re: Rat Trap Conundrum
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2014, 05:36:16 PM »
I was actually playing AH about 2 months ago and I heard this terrible shriek...so I jumped up and ran toward the sounds of terror to find my wife standing in the bathtub...I asked her WTF and through the convulsions she was

 having she pointed under the sink (it is on a freestanding cabinet with about 4" of space underneath it) I looked underneath it and there the little vermin sat, looking at me, taunting me with his whisker twitch...Quickly I shut the

door and put a towel in front of it to keep him from escaping...I armed myself with a plunger, said a quick prayer, and went into battle with the beady eyed terrorist who had just caused my wife a mild stroke...I rattled the plumber's

helper under the cabinet to spook him out and he obliged by streaking out and tried his hardest to make his way up the corner where the tub and wall meet...it was a violent struggle, with me missing several killshots while my wife

cut loose a stream of obscenities about my inability to off the little critter...when the battle was over he was buried at sea, I did not want there to be a grave site for fear of it turning into a place of worship for his followers.


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Re: Rat Trap Conundrum
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2014, 06:00:38 PM »
I have actually seen trapped animals chew their legs and feet off to get out, but that usually leaves some blood trail. :headscratch: seems odd.  yeah it sucks when they get someplace and die, but the plus side the smell usually only lasts a week or so  :D  I worked on a guys house that had RAT problems, and he ended up buying small chain and chaining the traps, so if one got caught and didnt die they couldnt haul his traps away.  he was sitting in his basement shooting them with ratshot while we were there  :lol  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho-YEToMo60

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Re: Rat Trap Conundrum
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2014, 08:42:35 PM »
I have a few mouse traps in my attic and catch a few now and then. A few months ago I checked the traps and one was missing. Where the trap was set was just a bunch of minuscule pieces peanut butter as if the trap exploded. I looked all over, but still no missing trap anywhere.

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Re: Rat Trap Conundrum
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2014, 09:40:29 PM »
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Re: Rat Trap Conundrum
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2014, 10:21:14 PM »
This weekend I did some spring cleaning in my garage, and discovered I had a rat or two living laaaarge in there this winter. 

So I bought and set a trap and sure enough, next morning a dead rat.  I also see another scurry out from under the bench, so I set the trap again that morning.

We come back in the afternoon and I find the trap has been triggered, but no rat.  The trap is located in the same spot where it was set, and has a tiny sliver of blood on it.  About a foot away, there is another drop of blood about the size of a quarter.  Then about 8-ft away, a larger pool of dried blood, maybe 2-3 quarters size. 

So here is the weird part.  No bloody tracks or trail between pools of blood, and no body.  The second pool of blood is located further into the garage, away from the door and trap, away from the escape route.  I checked everywhere on the floor, nothing.  Now I'm worried the little bastard might have climbed up somewhere to die.   :O

It sounds like you probably had the trap go off "early" and just grazed the rats nose.  They'll bleed like a stuck pig from that, but may only leave a puddle where they stop to rub and lick the wound, rather than a blood trail.

The good news is it probably won't die and stink somewhere; when a trap deals the rat a deadly blow it's almost always going to be in the trap.  If it's a glancing blow, it's probably not going to be fatal.

The bad news is that first, if you see a rat or two, you almost always have more.  There's probably a colony nearby; maybe in your buildings, or maybe somewhere else within 50-100yards.  Rats don't spend much time a as singles or doubles long-term.  Next, they're SMART little critters, and communicate in spooky ways.  If one sees another in a trap, it'll spread the word through the colony, and you won't catch another in that type of trap.  Spooky, and hard to believe, but true.

If you poison them, it can cause real issues as well.  They'll often take the bait to a secluded spot in a wall, etc, and with a new food will often sample just a TINY bit.  If they get sick or die, you're done; none of the other rats will touch the bait.  I had a colony on my property, and resorted to some poison blocks placed in areas that I knew my dogs couldn't get to.  The rats found the unopened container/bucket in my garage, chewed into it and helped themselves to the entire batch.  Where did they take it?  I had no idea, but a week or so later my german shorthaired pointer began bringing my wife and I chunks of in her mouth.  Not cool, but she never got sick...  I eventually had to resort to non-poison methods and found stashes of uneaten blocks under my house foundation.

There are a few tricks to getting rid of them with traps.  Place your traps carefully, to maximize the chance of a kill and minimize the chance of a glancing shot or misfire.  Then, check and remove any dead rats ASAP, before any other rats witness the carnage.  I'd even consider wearing rubber gloves and cleaning the traps between kills so there is no scent of "distress"; rat scent mixed with blood, urine, etc...  Put out multiple traps and try to catch a bunch over the first 2-3 days, before the colony gets wise to the threat.

It's also extremely important to kill the dominant female.  If you kill the males or younger females, more will keep coming.  If you kill the dominant female though, the rest of the colony will often evacuate the area.

Good luck!  Rats are no fun...
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Re: Rat Trap Conundrum
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2014, 03:18:06 AM »
Mittenman, if I kill you and eat you, will I gain your knowledge and power?
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Re: Rat Trap Conundrum
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2014, 05:36:29 AM »
Mittenman, if I kill you and eat you, will I gain your knowledge and power?

Of course...

You are what you eat!
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