Whats the best Luftwaffe fighter in the game and why?

[Stampf]

Yes, the F was popular in it's time and being considered the "finest" by many of those being able to fly all 109s... but late in the war (=AH's LW arena) I guess few would have preferred the noble F to a late war monster like  190D or a Me 262.

Indeed.  Only speed would see them through.

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[Wiley]

The A8 -  "no more assists" 

True, but you forget the corollary to that-  "No more kills".

Damn it....the 110G never gets any respect!  Why, I ask you?!  Why!?!?!?

It's got great guns!

It's fast as....ahhhhh.....errrr

Well....it can turn like a Spi....aaaaahhh....mmmm....

I mean, it can climb like a bat out of.....er.....um....no....

Look, it's got fantastic roll raaaaaahhhh....no....mmmm



Did I mention the guns?

It's got a cool rear gunner....with a useless popgun.....mmmm








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It's better than most give it credit for, but it's a masochist's ride.  However I can remember some sorties with Zoney hanging out overhead in his N jug with me in the 110 that resulted in a lot of dead aircraft.

Wiley.

[RotBaron]

G-14 for me.

The why: something just clicked for me one day. Probably because I was focusing on learning it, but the "it" just happened. This hasn't happened to me in any other plane yet, but I'm sure it does the same thing for everybody. All of a sudden some things(not everything of course) just made more sense.

For me it happened in a fight with Ammo.  

  Ammo

[Hoplite]

True, but you forget the corollary to that-  "No more kills".

It's better than most give it credit for, but it's a masochist's ride.  However I can remember some sorties with Zoney hanging out overhead in his N jug with me in the 110 that resulted in a lot of dead aircraft.

Wiley.

 Yes it is a masochist's ride....but I think flying a ride with so many limitations helps develop skills.  That and you tend to not get PMs saying "You only beat me because you fly a uber plane, dillwad!"

Next up...the P40 series....  that's gonna be a whole new level of masochism.  

 

[Gman]

Of all the L/W books I've read that are written accounts by pilots who flew various planes, a large portion of them all of the fondest memories of the 109F series.  I can think of 3 books right off the top of my head where the L/W pilots said that the early 109F model was by far their favorite.  The 190 drivers who came from the 109 also have high praise for the 190's, saying that it was far, far easier to fly and fight what with all the advanced controls and systems for the age.  "A Higher Call", and Osprey's "Fw 190 Aces of the Eastern Front" are two great examples of both of these planes and what I'm referring to.

In the game, each of the L/W aircraft are dangerous and capable in their own way, even the 110/410.  I agree with Latrobe for my part, I feel like I can scrap my way out of almost any trouble in the F4, while in the K4 I feel like I don't have to.  In the 190D I feel like a Pony pilot, just better looking.  All through the 109 series you give away little things while getting other things in return, from the E model to the K4.  The F4 and G2 IMO can be fought the most similarly, the G6 is sort of in it's own little world, the G14 being the utility batter of the higher end, and the K4 being the supercar, with all the quirks/vices and advantages that come with that.

If it was a bet for $, and I was going into a furball, it would come down to the F4 or the K4 for me, depending on the details - 5/6 and pick em.

[BaldEagl]

109K-4 but the 190A-8 and the 110G-2 get more of my attention and the A-8 is far and away my most successful ride in AH over time; even eclipsing my beloved Spits by a wide margin.

[Widewing]

I'd rate the Ta 152H as the best overall Luftwaffe fighter. It has the best combination of attributes. Typical low level combat is not where it shines best, though.

For general use, I prefer the 109G-2. For me, it's the best balanced of the 109s. The 109F-4 is a better pure dogfighter, but the G-2 accelerates and climbs markedly better. It's also faster at all altitudes. The G-2 can carry a 250 kilo bomb, giving it some limited attack capability. It lacks the fire power of the later versions, but the gondola option and the superior handling and better view over the nose offsets that for me. Of all the 109s, the G-2 is best able to compete with the Yak-3 and La-7 in a knife fight. Very much their equal if you know how to avoid the 109's minor weaknesses and exploit those of the Yak and Lavochkin.

[ReVo]

 Yes it is a masochist's ride....but I think flying a ride with so many limitations helps develop skills.  That and you tend to not get PMs saying "You only beat me because you fly a uber plane, dillwad!"

Next up...the P40 series....  that's gonna be a whole new level of masochism.  

 

Enjoy spending all night chasing Spit16's and Runstangs. 

[save]

If my memory serves me, one of JG26 group commanders, was assigned a group of 109s,
After first flight in the 109, he asked his parachute be packed into a "proper bird"  (FW190a5), and the whole group switched to the FW190.
  

Of all the L/W books I've read that are written accounts by pilots who flew various planes, a large portion of them all of the fondest memories of the 109F series.  I can think of 3 books right off the top of my head where the L/W pilots said that the early 109F model was by far their favorite.  The 190 drivers who came from the 109 also have high praise for the 190's, saying that it was far, far easier to fly and fight what with all the advanced controls and systems for the age.  "A Higher Call", and Osprey's "Fw 190 Aces of the Eastern Front" are two great examples of both of these planes and what I'm referring to.

In the game, each of the L/W aircraft are dangerous and capable in their own way, even the 110/410.  I agree with Latrobe for my part, I feel like I can scrap my way out of almost any trouble in the F4, while in the K4 I feel like I don't have to.  In the 190D I feel like a Pony pilot, just better looking.  All through the 109 series you give away little things while getting other things in return, from the E model to the K4.  The F4 and G2 IMO can be fought the most similarly, the G6 is sort of in it's own little world, the G14 being the utility batter of the higher end, and the K4 being the supercar, with all the quirks/vices and advantages that come with that.

If it was a bet for $, and I was going into a furball, it would come down to the F4 or the K4 for me, depending on the details - 5/6 and pick em.

[artik]

Clearly Me 262 - it is the "next generation" fighter with no 2nd to it all over.

For the prop fighter I think 190D or Ta-152 depending or medium or high altitude fighting.

They have: great climb, speed, ammo, roll ratio, near perfect visibility, excellent dive characteristics - i.e. they have all it needs except for turn ability at low speed.

If I compare it to 109K/109G10 they have poor roll ratio, bad visibility, they tend to compress earlier, less ammo/or hard to hit ammo (30mm/20mm).

So for me Dora is one of the perfect fighters. 109F is nearly ignoble fighter in comparison to it - it can turn well but that's it.

[mbailey]

Moot in a TA152   

[nrshida]

Moot in a TA152   

That was always a sight to behold!

[R 105]

Hmm i could shoot that tater quite well, had much more problems with the G6's 20mm, trying to hold the cross on the target.
See, what is a huge advantage to one, might be a disadvantage to someone else. Just like the torque.

  I love that torque of the 109K-4 and nothing else I fly can turn around like the K model if you learn to use the torque. I worked with Agent360 in the DA in the K and he can really fly it. I also learned how to go fast without compressing as easy in all the 109s. Now if I can learn to shoot that tater gun I would be set.

[Hoplite]

Enjoy spending all night chasing Spit16's and Runstangs. 

I rarely have to, to be honest..  Most see the 110G as a easy kill  i.e. they come to me. 

I've always enjoyed popping preconceived notions.  Some of them manage to get me...but I rarely make it easy for them....and I usually give far more than get. 

[Debrody]

  I love that torque of the 109K-4 and nothing else I fly can turn around like the K model if you learn to use the torque. I worked with Agent360 in the DA in the K and he can really fly it. I also learned how to go fast without compressing as easy in all the 109s. Now if I can learn to shoot that tater gun I would be set.

Hey thats good to hear!
What i can say: get close, look for crossing snapshots and lead a lot. Once you begin to really feel it, you will be a damned killer machine