tank main gun shooting planes down.

[Volron]

Yay Cancer!

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I had a tanker shoot me down three times in a row once.  I was hunting the M3(s) and this guy got me with crossing shots; I was not flying straight at him.  I didn't even see him the first two times it happened.  He was deadly accurate and IMO, this is just a gamey aspect that I have to accept along with the good I enjoy.

[Fish42]

I don't see what you are complaining about...a tank fires a turret in three dimensional space.  Your plane flies in this three dimensional space.  If a tank fires a turret and it happens to hit your plane in this three dimensional space you die.  Why is this unrealistic?

Why would you be firing your whole turret at the enemy plane? You only have 1 of those.

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A tank hitting a plane not flying down into its barrel is rubbish.

We can thank AH tank viewing system for that. If you ever have been sitting in a gunners view position you know why hitting a tank only happened a handful times during a handful of years.

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The simple solution would be to remove GV's.

Wrong, wrong wrong.

[grizz441]

Why would you be firing your whole turret at the enemy plane? You only have 1 of those.

  I meant shell.

[texasmom]

Shooting down plnes w/main gun is one of my favorite things.  Please do continue to fly low enough for me to do that.

[Volron]

I love it when I can nail that con out a range with my main gun.  Quite satisfying, specially when it's the lead bomber in a set about to drop.   I've also been nipped by the main gun.  Sometimes, I just sit there going, "WTF?  That was one HELL of a shot! Woo!".  Most times it's, "Damn it!  Stay away from the pointy end of a turret...spits death at you. ".


Learn to attack tanks properly, and you won't have the issue as much.   Now if you are like me, and know how to do it, but still go about it half-arsed, well enjoy the hilarity.  Because I do.

[LilMak]

Tanks need the same icon ranges as planes have against them. That would help.

[Megalodon]

don't fly straight at a tank's main gun and you won't get shot down by it.  But to answer your question, yes there have been recorded incidents in which a tank shot down a plane with its main gun.

This is an account from Otto Carious' book (page 43).
Dmitriy Loza in an interview was asked a Sherman's AA defenses.  Interview source: I Remember - Dmitriy Loza interview

In his book, Commanding the Red Army's Sherman Tanks: The World War II Memoirs of Hero of the Soviet Union, Loza also briefly mentions a Sherman tank in his unit shooting at German attack plane.

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Neither of those are recorded incidences they are hearsay...



"Rudolf-Heinz Ruffer"

 

[PJ_Godzilla]

I love it when I can nail that con out a range with my main gun.  Quite satisfying, specially when it's the lead bomber in a set about to drop.   I've also been nipped by the main gun.  Sometimes, I just sit there going, "WTF?  That was one HELL of a shot! Woo!".  Most times it's, "Damn it!  Stay away from the pointy end of a turret...spits death at you. ".


Learn to attack tanks properly, and you won't have the issue as much.   Now if you are like me, and know how to do it, but still go about it half-arsed, well enjoy the hilarity.  Because I do.

Well, this is the thing, right? IRL, as Ack pointed out, the pilots had a healthy respect for the 50 cal and were out of the traverse range of motion of the main gun. One of the big differences b/w real life and the game is that the consequences of doing something stupid are much less severe... and so, you hav epeople flying airplanes within the range and elevation of the tank's main guns - some of which are little different from free-standing AA counterparts in all but mounting detail.

This reminds me, i meant to ask about fusing. I thought that a lot of AAA shells have an airburst capability. I presume, but don't know, that this is probably based on some pressure sensor triggerinng. Conceivably, at sufficient altitude, the pressure drop could trigger the explosive. I kind of assume we'd have conventional HE shells on a tank with some kind of impact detonator. I wouldn't, however, expect a tank to be carrying air-burst capable shells. Does anyone know anything about this?

[R 105]

 I served in an Armored unit as a trainer with a 19D20 MOS so I have a good understanding of tanks and tank sights. If you ever looked through a main gun sight you would understand why no tank in the history of the world ever shot down a flying aircraft with the main gun. At least not on purpose and if they did they never knew it or never reported it and I do not except any claims of the Red Army. If you were buttoned up and driver cross country a 747 could fly right over you at a 100 feet and you may not hear it in a tank.

 Here is another way to view it. Lets say you get in the truck of a car with a 22 rifle with a scope with a small hole cut it the trunk lid to put the gun through. Then have someone drive around over rough ground while you try to locate and shot a flying duck. You would have about as much luck as you would trying to hit a aircraft with a main gun. Even if it flew right at you while standing still you would still have a tough time even locating it with the sights and all you could do is fire a blind shot. I think the Russian tanker had it right by just dismounting and move away from your tank and fire at the aircraft with small arms.

[LilMak]

It sure would be nice if tankers didn't get a laser rangefinder and commander view with no commander to strafe.. Would make this a tad bit harder.

+1 on strafable commander...while in the commander position. When the player is in another position (gunner, driver) commander is buttoned up. Wonder if that could be modeled?

[FLOOB]

Well unfortunately my swabbies there is no good way to simulate hand cranks. So untill somebody makes usb crank wheel controllers