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Offline BuckShot

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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #75 on: April 03, 2014, 10:46:57 AM »
Solution: the only weapon that would shoot from command view is the m4 rockets.

There would still be planes getting hit by the main gun, but only in the situations like one of the guys mentioned where the spinner fills the entire reticle view.

Its only happened to me a few times, but there's a solution. My guess I'd that it didn't happen often in the war because they were looking through the sight wherever they fired the main.
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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #76 on: April 03, 2014, 03:55:45 PM »
Hitech, what happened the first time your team ever shot a tank round in the game during testing?

The first time I tried it online for testing, pyro and I were going to make sure planes could see your bullets and turrets move correctly. Pyro was about 1500 yards out flying with me off is right wing. I thought wouldn't it be fun to shoot at him. So I shoot the first bullet fired online by a tank in AH, and nail him with a 1500 yard crossing shot. We spent the next few hours before finally verifying it was not a bug and I really got that lucky.


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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #77 on: April 03, 2014, 04:02:22 PM »
The first time I tried it online for testing, pyro and I were going to make sure planes could see your bullets and turrets move correctly. Pyro was about 1500 yards out flying with me off is right wing. I thought wouldn't it be fun to shoot at him. So I shoot the first bullet fired online by a tank in AH, and nail him with a 1500 yard crossing shot. We spent the next few hours before finally verifying it was not a bug and I really got that lucky.


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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #78 on: April 03, 2014, 04:21:04 PM »
How? When I did it the shell didn't detonate.
They were quartering away from me when it happened so a pass through would account for 2 of them, but 2 of them blew instantly and the 3rd came down with half a wing so I assumed the shell detonated.
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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #79 on: April 03, 2014, 04:34:12 PM »
Yeah, don't fly right at em and you'll be fine!

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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #80 on: April 03, 2014, 04:59:40 PM »
WOW guys,alot of good information on this subject,it wasnt soo much any whinning as it was just the possibility of the shot itself.after looking at different situations that occur during.after considering the conditions,expertise of the enemy,the happenstance of the position of your plane and the actual evidence brought to light i feel much better knowing it can and does and probably will happen again the future!! :salute

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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #81 on: April 03, 2014, 05:03:47 PM »
WOW guys,alot of good information on this subject,it wasnt soo much any whinning as it was just the possibility of the shot itself.after looking at different situations that occur during.after considering the conditions,expertise of the enemy,the happenstance of the position of your plane and the actual evidence brought to light i feel much better knowing it can and does and probably will happen again the future!! :salute

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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #82 on: April 03, 2014, 05:51:36 PM »
I tested the Ju87-G tactics developed to kill both T-34 versions and heavier russian tanks with a single pass.

1. - Angle of attack when shooting aligns the trajectory 90 degrees to the armor.
2. - Hold fire until 50-60 yards from the tank.

Results was that I killed both T-34 in a single firing pass(one trigger tap) when I attacked the upper 60 degree armor in a 30 degree dive. I killed both tigers and panther in two passes. The panzers and M4's flying level to the ground in a single pass.

Rudel killed 519 Russian tanks using this tactic. Not a single tank commander watched him coming in his 1500 yard lineup run with the turret turning following his eyes and at 50 yards killed Rudel because Rudel flew down his gun barrel.

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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #83 on: April 03, 2014, 06:23:12 PM »
Simple solution to many, many bbs whines about the "gamey" aspects of AH: No aircraft should be able to fire a weapon or release ords from F3 view, and no GV should be able to fire its weapons (any weapons, not just the main gun) from the commander position.

And +100 on the GV commander being able to be killed by fire if the position is occupied and the commander (who currently exists only as a ghost) is hit. Bomber gunners can be killed, pilots can be killed. GV commanders should be able to be killed as well.

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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #84 on: April 03, 2014, 07:07:10 PM »
The first time I tried it online for testing, pyro and I were going to make sure planes could see your bullets and turrets move correctly. Pyro was about 1500 yards out flying with me off is right wing. I thought wouldn't it be fun to shoot at him. So I shoot the first bullet fired online by a tank in AH, and nail him with a 1500 yard crossing shot. We spent the next few hours before finally verifying it was not a bug and I really got that lucky.


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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #85 on: April 03, 2014, 08:02:56 PM »
Simple solution to many, many bbs whines about the "gamey" aspects of AH: No aircraft should be able to fire a weapon or release ords from F3 view, and no GV should be able to fire its weapons (any weapons, not just the main gun) from the commander position.



Not even the pintle mounted mg, when available?
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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #86 on: April 03, 2014, 08:51:59 PM »
Not even the pintle mounted mg, when available?

I have never been able to fire the pintle MG from the commander position...
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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #87 on: April 03, 2014, 09:09:08 PM »
Simple solution to many, many bbs whines about the "gamey" aspects of AH: No aircraft should be able to fire a weapon or release ords from F3 view, and no GV should be able to fire its weapons (any weapons, not just the main gun) from the commander position.

And +100 on the GV commander being able to be killed by fire if the position is occupied and the commander (who currently exists only as a ghost) is hit. Bomber gunners can be killed, pilots can be killed. GV commanders should be able to be killed as well.



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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #88 on: April 04, 2014, 06:13:19 AM »
In order for GV commanders to be killed!  They would first have to be able to "button up",, since they can't ,,,ect,ect,ect,,,   For an air combat game some of you sure spend a lot of time shooting at stuff on the ground!

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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #89 on: April 04, 2014, 06:29:31 AM »
I have never been able to fire the pintle MG from the commander position...

Well, obviously, I don't fly GVs much. However, it seems to stand to reason to me that, if you have a "commander's position" and if the tank had a pintle-mounted mg mounted in close proximity to the commander's hatch, that that gun there is intended to be useful to the commander and that the "commander's position" is some kind of sham if it has magical powers that don't include the rather practical power of using the pintle gun intended for his use.

What the hell is this "commander's position"? It sounds like something that doesn't have a lot of real world parallel, unless you consider, let's say a middle management position in a large corporation in which you've got certain powers outside your job description and traditional role but are completely disempowered in ways that people in your position traditionally are not.
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