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Offline diaster

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Re: This game is dead unless things change
« Reply #195 on: April 16, 2014, 12:31:24 PM »
Snap view is pretty effortless and intuitive if you know how to set up your Head Positions for Snap Views. I was watching some of your Dora flying videos this morning, and I think I can actually see behind and around the headrest better with the way I have snap views setup than you can with your TrackIR. The real problem is that the Head Positions for snap views aren't set up well for visibility by default, that is what should be fixed IMO. However, head position files can be downloaded and pasted directly to your Aces High controller. And if you want to use the same head positions for say, the entire Fw-190 family, you can just set head positions for one aircraft and then copy and rename the same hps file to give you the same views in the other AC.
How about semi transparent frames on the canopy and a few inches into the seat back. This would mimic binocular vision. Real aircraft are very easy to see out of. and all you naysayers... once you get used to trac ir, it becomes very instinctive, the limitation of straight up views and rotating your head at that angle and the view shifting once in a while, is the only grief I get. I strap the transmitter to my headset, so wearing it isn't an issue. matter of fact,,, everyone flying should have a headset and use it!!!
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Re: This game is dead unless things change
« Reply #196 on: April 16, 2014, 12:41:10 PM »
After reading your post, that almost sounds like it's admitting a problem.

Sort of like "We can't let the slaves be free, because they'll enjoy their freedom and never come back if we give it to them."

If relaxed-realism is where the market is going, then be assured: this game needs to go there to or it will die.

Directly to the point, relaxed-realism is better, both historically and in my personal opinion, for gaming purposes. There are so many non-realistic aspects of Aces High that even it fails to model actual WWII combat accurately. The few things that are modeled (that other games do not model) typically tend to make a very complicated mess out of something that's very easy to do in real life.

Example? Cockpit-only views.

The user either has to
a) Spend $100 for TrackIR, take weeks to learn the setup, and then wear a hat (or other device) for gameplay,
b) Build their own tracking software, spending money for the materals, take weeks to learn the setup... and wear a hat (or other device) for gameplay,
c) Use a non-intuitive hatswitch+multi-key combination to get limited 45* views, or
d) Not adapt and fly at a disadvantage.

Many of us would laugh at thinking the above is complex (I personally run TrackIR and find it very easy to use), but for your average user, this is beyond ridiculous. And for what advantage? To say that "we're realistic"? The only functional limitation of cockpit-only views is shooting over the cowling and lead-turning someone at close range.

In real life, it's comparatively effortless to track another plane while flying, much more so than this game makes it.

Giving players access to a full-forward view, combined with a padlock view (not the limited version we have now) makes the game that much more accessible to new players. So what if it's easy to shoot close range? Is it "realistic"? No, but it's no less realistic than Spitfires fighting Spitfires or 109K-4's getting 1-shot kills on a fighter at 200yds. And don't get me started on the chess-piece teams (which I believe damages attractiveness to prospective players, including myself at one time, greatly).

In the meantime, you've just lost multiple potential new subscribers.

And so on.

Full-realism rarely scales well in sims. Trying to limit players' access to a relaxed-realism arena, acknowledging that they wouldn't play with you given the option, is a very sad admission and a very self-defeating position to take.
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Re: This game is dead unless things change
« Reply #197 on: April 16, 2014, 12:43:03 PM »
The game was fine until someone stuck a Fork in it.

Now it's dead.

P.S.  I was given permission to be a dick.
On line the other day, i called out to fork many times.... no answer at all, not even in text buffer. Hard to help anyone if they don't even answer up to you!!
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Re: This game is dead unless things change
« Reply #198 on: April 16, 2014, 01:46:11 PM »
You and Chalenge?

You forgot Zoney. 

I'd say Rumal and 2CMex, but one just runs away and the other is disqualified because Tempests don't count.

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Re: This game is dead unless things change
« Reply #199 on: April 16, 2014, 02:44:25 PM »
You forgot Zoney. 

I'd say Rumal and 2CMex, but one just runs away and the other is disqualified because Tempests don't count.

Don't worry, Bear.  We know you are afraid of heights.  :lol

True, because I'm not a picktard like those mentioned.

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Re: This game is dead unless things change
« Reply #200 on: April 16, 2014, 03:04:57 PM »
Aces High is rather unique among flight sims in how well you can see with snapviews once you get them properly adjusted. It is the only sim I've ever played where TrackIR *isn't* a large advantage. There isn't any real need for transparent canopy frames or the like to achieve a realistic level of aircraft tracking ability, much less a need for external views or padlock. It would probably be nice for noobs if the views came adjusted a little better by default however. I can post some screen shots this weekend to show what I mean.
How about semi transparent frames on the canopy and a few inches into the seat back. This would mimic binocular vision. Real aircraft are very easy to see out of. and all you naysayers... once you get used to trac ir, it becomes very instinctive, the limitation of straight up views and rotating your head at that angle and the view shifting once in a while, is the only grief I get. I strap the transmitter to my headset, so wearing it isn't an issue. matter of fact,,, everyone flying should have a headset and use it!!!
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Re: This game is dead unless things change
« Reply #201 on: April 16, 2014, 03:10:32 PM »
Also, I have a method of using snap views that perhaps makes them more intuitive: On my joystick there is a center button directly under the hat switch. I set that to trigger my "Look directly up" view, and mash it with the heel of my thumb when I wish to look up. I have the hat set to my 8 way level views. When I need to "Look up+forward/forward left/left etc..." I mash the center button with the heel of my thumb and work the hat with my tip. This has been very intuitive and worked quite well since the beginning, I track effortlessly and scan without trouble.

Another possible method that seems to work well for some is to actually use the trigger button found on most sticks as the "look up" in combo with a hatswitch, reserving another button somewhere for gun firing.
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Re: This game is dead unless things change
« Reply #202 on: April 16, 2014, 06:31:27 PM »
True, because I'm not a picktard like those mentioned.

I was speaking about co-E fights.  But I suppose no one who flies about 2K does that.  :rolleyes:

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Re: This game is dead unless things change
« Reply #203 on: April 16, 2014, 07:10:47 PM »
I was speaking about co-E fights.  But I suppose no one who flies about 2K does that.  :rolleyes:

The people I've seen at those alts generally don't fight and when they get in trouble guess where they go? 2k, so I just avoid all the chasing.  :lol

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Re: This game is dead unless things change
« Reply #204 on: April 16, 2014, 07:15:05 PM »
The people I've seen at those alts generally don't fight and when they get in trouble guess where they go? 2k, so I just avoid all the chasing.  :lol

True.  Some do tho'

I find 12K about the best balance.  I only typically go 20K if I'm hunting bombers...or Zoney.   :D

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Re: This game is dead unless things change
« Reply #205 on: April 17, 2014, 04:12:42 AM »
I wish we could start a fundraiser for AH advertising.

Hell, World of Tanks isn't even that good of a game (I have nearly 18K battles in WoT), but it has a fairly large playerbase. Why? Advertising (and it being free, but that's another topic).
Everywhere I go online I see WoT ads.

Take War Thunder for example. Advertising and eye candy. That's the key to this new generation of gamer....sadly.

I know I haven't played in a while (my computer died...still is, was homeless for a while, etc.), but I'd like to come back one day, when I can afford it.
Like, ya know, when that thing that makes you move, it has pistons and things, When your thingamajigy is providing power, you do not hear other peoples thingamajig when they are providing power.

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Re: This game is dead unless things change
« Reply #206 on: April 17, 2014, 05:37:32 PM »
I wish we could start a fundraiser for AH advertising.

Hell, World of Tanks isn't even that good of a game (I have nearly 18K battles in WoT), but it has a fairly large playerbase. Why? Advertising (and it being free, but that's another topic).
Everywhere I go online I see WoT ads.

Take War Thunder for example. Advertising and eye candy. That's the key to this new generation of gamer....sadly.

I know I haven't played in a while (my computer died...still is, was homeless for a while, etc.), but I'd like to come back one day, when I can afford it.

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Re: This game is dead unless things change
« Reply #207 on: April 17, 2014, 07:12:48 PM »
Before we record the time of death for this patient. Don't we need to see it's Lazarus act in person, then HTC's next move to tell the world about how the patient came back from the dead?

Unless you guys just enjoy beating corpses to get out your piety during the intermission before the second half.

Holy necroville..............
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Re: This game is dead unless things change
« Reply #208 on: April 17, 2014, 07:55:48 PM »
Before we record the time of death for this patient. Don't we need to see it's Lazarus act in person, then HTC's next move to tell the world about how the patient came back from the dead?

Unless you guys just enjoy beating corpses to get out your piety during the intermission before the second half.

Holy necroville..............


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Re: This game is dead unless things change
« Reply #209 on: April 17, 2014, 09:16:30 PM »
So what your are telling HT is, you game sucks and its going down the drain. Boy if I was HT, just cuz what's been going on the boards lately, I would pull the plug and tell you all to (BAN ME I DONT CARE) F off. How DARE you all to tell HT how to run his business. If you don't like what is going on the freking door is OPEN....USE IT we don't need or want you. Some freking NEWBIE here for a year and saying the game is done....HOW DARE YOU......leave, go away. Dang people now days just suck :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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