Ditching.... needs changing IMHO

[Volron]

No.

With out the challenge , landing a damaged aircraft on a runway would not provide any ward. Look at the damaged b17 screen shots that some people showed stopped on a runway. With out the requirement that they stop on a runway , the feeling of accomplishment they received would not be there.

HiTech

 

[FLS]

Thank you sir, I stand humbly corrected.

You were correct for AH arena scoring. Scenario scoring is based on the event log and scenario rules.

[danny76]

No, it's a ditch in FSO's at least, pretty sure scenarios too.  There is no gray area, either you are on the concrete or you are off the concrete.  So many wishes try to make it easier.  This is one of those. Come on guys, rise to the challenge, learn from your failures and try harder next time.  

I absolutely love the struggle to get a damaged bird home.  I've flown leaky radiators 4 sectors to land after switching engine on and off to make sure she wouldn't lock up.  The greater the challenge, the greater the satisfaction in success.

I love the struggle of getting a damaged bird home too, but for the sake of a bit of realism, if it's shot to crap and leaking from a thousand holes, with half the undercarriage gone, I think that as long as your initial touchdown is on concrete, you get the landing.

Most guys landed on grass fields anyway

[Blooz]

Donkey Crap

You land a shot up plane with a busted motor and wounded pilot, doubt the ground crew would've complained. Quit attempting to illicit a response

It's elicit.

If you're going to use fancy words, spell them correctly.

Besides, if I wanted a response, I'd have asked a question. I only stated fact. The runway is plenty wide and plenty long. If you can't land on it then you need more practice. When damaged, wheels up landing is your best bet.

[danny76]

It's elicit.

If you're going to use fancy words, spell them correctly.

Besides, if I wanted a response, I'd have asked a question. I only stated fact. The runway is plenty wide and plenty long. If you can't land on it then you need more practice. When damaged, wheels up landing is your best bet.

It's 'pedant'

I was referring to the once in a blue moon when a beat up landing happens, yes I made a grammatical error, however I used the wrong spelling of the word, I did not spell it incorrectly, and I am a bit of a grammar Narrzie, it's late, I'm tired and drunk, and you need to read a little more if you believe that either elicit or illicit are fancy words

Regards

[Oldman731]

You did not miss landing the kills. You still landed the same amount. That in itself should be satisfying. What you did miss was your name in the buffer.

This.

- oldman

[Vraciu]

Where's the runway?



This would be something easy to change I would think.  Changing the small and medium fields to grass with a "good" landing determined by proximity (which is already in the game for other purposes) would make things more realistic and offer more variety in field types being both grass and other materials (ie: concrete or steel mesh, etc).

Putting my wheels on the concrete path at a VH base for a "good" landing is ridiculous

[Vraciu]

Fine for 1940.  By 1943 everyone (except for those at Horsham St. Faith) was using concrete runways.  Wiley's correct, there's no need to bother modeling runways at all if anything inside the base perimeter counts as a good landing.

- oldman

"Hey, that guy just landed on the bomb depot!"

"Looked good to me.  Could we put lights there so he could land it at night?"

Really?   Where did those 163s land???

[Vraciu]

So an airplane skids down the runway shedding parts and winds up inverted on a taxiway.  Landing.

Meanwhile a perfectly intact plane lands with the left main an inch off the runway.  Ditch.

 

That makes sense.   Well, no, actually it doesn't.   

[Tinkles]

So an airplane skids down the runway shedding parts and winds up inverted on a taxiway.  Landing.

Meanwhile a perfectly intact plane lands with the left main an inch off the runway.  Ditch.

 

That makes sense.   Well, no, actually it doesn't.   

Maybe HTC could model it so if you 'land' on the base you get a few %'s knocked off than if you landed on the runway. No name in lights. If you land on runway, then you get name in lights and your bonus perkies.

I see what you mean, and that does bother me. However, many take this as a 'name in the lights' wish, just because the 'name in the lights' is a 'reward' for landing on the runway. Personally, unless I do something really spectacular, I couldn't careless about my name in the lights.

But that's just me 

[Vraciu]

An off-airport landing without damage is not a ditch.   Ditching is what you do in the water.   Landing off airport wheels up is a far cry from landing a perfectly undamaged plane an inch left of the runway edge.


Why a ditch in real life is in the water instead of in the dirt is beyond me in terms of language....but the point remains.

[Vraciu]

Maybe HTC could model it so if you 'land' on the base you get a few %'s knocked off than if you landed on the runway. No name in lights. If you land on runway, then you get name in lights and your bonus perkies.

I see what you mean, and that does bother me. However, many take this as a 'name in the lights' wish, just because the 'name in the lights' is a 'reward' for landing on the runway. Personally, unless I do something really spectacular, I couldn't careless about my name in the lights.

But that's just me  

Maybe he could, but as hard as it is to get things changed around here....I won't hold my breath.

As people keep telling me, it's his pond.   I am merely a tadpole trying to become a frog....

I guess at this point I am just grateful a game like this still exists.   Rearranging deck chairs isn't productive.   May as well fight in the arena while it is here...   I don't imagine ENY, Sideswitch, or Ditch rules will ever change, no matter how logical such things are.  


In any event...   Remember these days, gents.   Someday we will miss them.

[kvuo75]

An off-airport landing without damage is not a ditch.   Ditching is what you do in the water.   Landing off airport wheels up is a far cry from landing a perfectly undamaged plane an inch left of the runway edge.

what if the entire field counted for a landing and you landed an inch off of the field?

[Vraciu]

what if the entire field counted for a landing and you landed an inch off of the field?

That would be stupid, too, to a degree.   


Crashing an airplane and spinning off onto the taxiway minus every part is a "ditch" more so than rolling off the runway or base by an inch with an intact aircraft.

[Volron]

I am of the opinion that a wheels up landing on the strip should count as a ditch.  In reality, a wheels up landing would likely take a strip out of commission for a while too.

Must...resist...urge to...land...upside-down!