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Offline Chalenge

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Re: What "We" Really Want
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2014, 02:01:47 PM »
Thanks for reminding me Arlo.  :rolleyes:
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Re: What "We" Really Want
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2014, 03:57:03 PM »
The problem is you are not thinking ahead. First off, Nvidia does not charge companies to implement CUDA.

https://developer.nvidia.com/

It's obvious you didn't spend anytime thinking about that. I mean, who would buy a card that no one supports?

Second, only HTC can tell you how many man hours adding this into their code would take. I would bet it's not as hard as you think it is.

Third, a check box certainly works in other games. Have you ever chosen between DirectX and OpenGL? Just add CUDA.

Fourth, the $3k card is just the first to be discussed. Every generation of card that comes down the line will add power and capability. Adding the capability to expand to greater possibilities at this point (when HTC is updating a great deal of the code) only makes sense. Otherwise, it would add even more delay and development time later. Any argument to the contrary only holds AH back.


nobody is saying not to do it in the future.  what we are saying is why do it now when perhaps only 2 or 3 players, if that, will take advantage of it.  is it a  good return on coading time investment?


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Re: What "We" Really Want
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2014, 04:42:46 PM »
Semp,

A change is about to happen to the game. During times of change, there is always jockeying for new positions by people hoping to become the new mavens of hip. The OP is already trying to own the future by labeling anyone who disagrees with him as a construct of the irrelevant past.

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Re: What "We" Really Want
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2014, 05:01:26 PM »
... the new mavens of hip.

I foresee a new squad.

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Re: What "We" Really Want
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2014, 05:01:57 PM »
The whole reason AH is seeing an exodus is because of people like you. You are boring and intellectual dishonest. You seldom (I would guess never) have anything positive to add to any discussion.

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Re: What "We" Really Want
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2014, 02:48:48 AM »
It's just that you always bring up money, like you don't have any or something. Just get a job man!
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Re: What "We" Really Want
« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2014, 12:46:50 PM »
since not many people can afford a 3k video card.  when your wish becomes mainstream (if it ever does) I am pretty sure ah will support it but for now why ask for something that maybe 2 or 3 players will use?



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Anyone with a Nvidia GFX 8xxxx or greater video card will be able to use CUDA and PhysX, so its not only limited to a '2 or 3 players'.

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Re: What "We" Really Want
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2014, 03:24:05 PM »
I think some missed the point. It isn't about the graphics it's about being able to replace graphic art with physics simulation. Which is huge.
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Re: What "We" Really Want
« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2014, 01:45:18 AM »
When I say "we" I don't mean the propeller heads, or the steel jockeys, I mean gamers. When HTC publishes the work they have in the previews, as in recent days, we get to see the direction they are moving. That's really great and I am excited to see a move in that direction. Still, what "we" really want is just coming into being now (meaning it is now possible), but the problem is not every user has a system capable of the state-of-the-art physics simulations. So, my wish is for a user-selectable option to allow for the CUDA physics simulations as shown by Jen-Hsun Huang at the most recent Technology Conference. I know not everyone can afford a $3k card, but I know one day this will be mainstream. Smoke, fire, water, lighting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XISqvBVyASo
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Re: What "We" Really Want
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2014, 02:36:12 AM »
You cannot see the fire nor the water from 30k+.
"We"   lol
See how poor the gameplay is with this low numbers and the lack of fights, see how crappy the 110 looks yet wish for super realistic smoke simulation for the users with a 3k$ gpu - try playing crysis3 or something like that.
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Re: What "We" Really Want
« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2014, 02:38:07 AM »
You cannot see the fire nor the water from 30k+.
"We"   lol
See how poor the gameplay is with this low numbers and the lack of fights, see how crappy the 110 looks yet wish for super realistic smoke simulation for the users with a 3k$ gpu - try playing crysis3 or something like that.
maybe...

Respectfully, you dont play, so why are you worried?

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Re: What "We" Really Want
« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2014, 02:46:28 AM »
I think some missed the point. It isn't about the graphics it's about being able to replace graphic art with physics simulation. Which is huge.

Exactly. Ideally we could have a slider that would allow each user to set how much they dedicate to physics, versus graphics. That would be for HTC to flesh out.

Ack-Ack while what you say is true it is also true that this is Nvidia specific, and while the 8800 (3##, 4##) and above support CUDA, the early GPU drivers are only CUDA version 1.0. Even Titan is only version 3.5, while Maxwell (750 Ti, & 8##, and apparently Titan Z) are version 5.0.
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Re: What "We" Really Want
« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2014, 05:50:32 AM »
Anyone with a Nvidia GFX 8xxxx or greater video card will be able to use CUDA and PhysX, so its not only limited to a '2 or 3 players'.

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Re: What "We" Really Want
« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2014, 06:19:02 AM »
And anyone with ANYTHING AMD won't.

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Re: What "We" Really Want
« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2014, 06:59:22 AM »
It's just that you always bring up money, like you don't have any or something. Just get a job man!


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