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Offline Puma44

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Re: Tactics Talk: How to Exploit Better Power Loading?
« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2014, 09:57:41 AM »
I am a little lost here. What do you guys call a spiral climb. How high is AoA
Not sure what your AoA query is asking.  Here's a link   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle_of_attack    if you're not clear about what it is.  The spiral climb seems to be more of a "game" terminology.  In the real world of BFM, it could be related to a vertical scissors maneuver between two fighters.  :salute



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Re: Tactics Talk: How to Exploit Better Power Loading?
« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2014, 10:15:36 AM »
Think of a spring. How it spirals always turning but still going up, you want your enemy in the MIDDLE of that spring, in the hole, below you. That way, if he is trying to get a shot on you, he has to maintain a very high AoA (angle of attack) aka he is trying to climb to you at say an 80 degree angle (almost straight up) while you only have to climb around 20-30 degrees. This works in all planes, but ones with better stall speed characteristics are the best (109k4, spit 16 etc. You wouldn't want to be in a p47d25 at a similar E state to a spit 16 and try this because he will most likely catch you.

How to counter this is easy, just follow the spring instead of trying to point your nose at the enemy (lag pursuit iirc).
Or, level out an gain some distance to try and reset.

THanks,  Very well described .
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Re: Tactics Talk: How to Exploit Better Power Loading?
« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2014, 12:24:56 PM »
Not sure what your AoA query is asking.  Here's a link   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle_of_attack    if you're not clear about what it is.  The spiral climb seems to be more of a "game" terminology.  In the real world of BFM, it could be related to a vertical scissors maneuver between two fighters.  :salute


He's asking how hard should you be climbing. Do you want it to be a climb at the edge of your stall, a slow climb at high air speed, or something in between.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: Tactics Talk: How to Exploit Better Power Loading?
« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2014, 03:50:09 PM »
You have to evaluate the bandit. Note if he is falling back, holding relative position, out turning you, or cutting the circle. You will decide at that time how hard to maneuver. You want him encouraged to engage but not so much that he'll be successful.

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Re: Tactics Talk: How to Exploit Better Power Loading?
« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2014, 01:52:41 PM »

He's asking how hard should you be climbing.


Wpeters, is that what you're asking?



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