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Offline Groth

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Ye Gods... I thought P-47 was monster...
« on: May 03, 2014, 04:16:36 PM »
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Re: Ye Gods... I thought P-47 was monster...
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2014, 04:21:55 PM »
Never saw service.
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Re: Ye Gods... I thought P-47 was monster...
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2014, 04:27:36 PM »
 Yep, I know...IE:not a wish....<<<<<<<< ???

       I've known of it..even made model....30+ years ago.
       But never really saw it in relation to real people...what a big monster. IE: my point..glad you got it(maybe). It's the point where the pilot goes up steps to climb in...

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Re: Ye Gods... I thought P-47 was monster...
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2014, 04:48:01 PM »
      But never really saw it in relation to real people...what a big monster.




the young lad looking at that plane was about 190cm tall at that time...  :old:
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Re: Ye Gods... I thought P-47 was monster...
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2014, 05:17:01 PM »

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the young lad looking at that plane was about 190cm tall at that time...  :old:

Now an old gastropod   :lol


Pretty cool though.

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Re: Ye Gods... I thought P-47 was monster...
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2014, 05:54:28 PM »
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Re: Ye Gods... I thought P-47 was monster...
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2014, 07:21:19 PM »
Never saw service.

Pierre Clostermann reportedly encountered one while flying with a flight of Tempests.
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Re: Ye Gods... I thought P-47 was monster...
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2014, 07:26:44 PM »
Pierre Clostermann reportedly encountered one while flying with a flight of Tempests.

For one, I generally take Closterman's words with a grain of salt generally. ;)

But apart from that, you could encounter any kind of prototype (or trainers) over Germany late war, because there was about no place left where they could fly in absolute safety all the time.
The single prototype of the mighty BV 238 was sunk by Allied fighters, but was also never in service either.
The 335 was in production and had done many test flights, but never went operational.
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Re: Ye Gods... I thought P-47 was monster...
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2014, 07:37:49 PM »
Pierre Clostermann reportedly encountered one while flying with a flight of Tempests.
I never said it didn't fly.  I said it didn't see service.

As far as a 1946 arena goes, I'd take a Hornet or Bearcat over the Do335.
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Re: Ye Gods... I thought P-47 was monster...
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2014, 07:39:24 PM »
I never said it didn't fly.  I said it didn't see service.


So, by "service," you mean "widely fielded"? Or... something else? Without records, encountering one during the war, even a single one, only leans toward that it was in service.
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2014, 07:42:33 PM »

So, by "service," you mean "widely fielded"? Or... something else? Without records, encountering one during the war, even a single one, only leans toward that it was in service.


So a protoype or a pre production plane flying tests flights makes any plane being "in service"?
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2014, 07:44:10 PM »

So a protoype or a pre production plane flying tests flights makes any plane being "in service"?

No, not at all - however, there's no evidence that the one encountered was either (that was my point). Claiming they absolutely never saw service, when there is a clearly a report of encountering one, seems rather speculative.
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Re: Ye Gods... I thought P-47 was monster...
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2014, 07:45:17 PM »
No, not at all - however, there's no evidence that the one encountered was either (that was my point). Claiming they absolutely never saw service, when there is a clearly a report of encountering one, seems rather speculative.

It is not speculative at all, as the history of the Do 335 is quite well documented.
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Re: Ye Gods... I thought P-47 was monster...
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2014, 07:56:22 PM »
Well, yes I understand about the prototypes being encountered by allied combat planes.. Good point!

And I understand that HT isn't going to model every German freakfighter that flew, even tho it may have
even scored operational kills....

But some primeval aero instinct still makes me want to fly in the dark, hunting Lankstankers from an UHU..
What a freakin cool airplane!

I'd come back to fly a genuine nightfighter scenario! :banana:


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Re: Ye Gods... I thought P-47 was monster...
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2014, 07:56:46 PM »
It is not speculative at all, as the history of the Do 335 is quite well documented.
Exactly.  This is not an unknown thing.

The Do335 never saw service.

The A7M2 never saw service.

Were examples built?  Yes.

Did they ever see service?  No.

This is well documented.


And I understand that HT isn't going to model every German freakfighter that flew, even tho it may have
even scored operational kills....
The Do335 scored no kills.
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