The HE 162 VolksJager

[LCADolby]

Wonder how well the glue will hold is parts inplace

[Lusche]

Wonder how well the glue will hold is parts inplace

Built quality ain't really modeled in AH. We also don't have late war 109's of varying (degraded) build quality.
It may be somewhat more susceptible to combat damage (and the engine as vulnerable as the Me 262's one), but that's about it.



To prevent any misunderstanding, this is not a plea for the inclusion of the 162

[Hetzer7]

Well, it did reach squadron service so why not? With only 2 MG151s and single engine would be a challenge to be successful with it.

+1

<S> - Hetz

[nrshida]

Built quality ain't really modeled in AH. We also don't have late war 109's of varying (degraded) build quality.
It may be somewhat more susceptible to combat damage (and the engine as vulnerable as the Me 262's one), but that's about it.

As an experienced AH Ki-84 pilot I beg to differ.

[Butcher]

As an experienced AH Ki-84 pilot I beg to differ.

The King Tiger we have, is flawless - unlike what was coming out of the factories in late 1944/1945. Shady welding, cracks in the armor - Engines that simply couldn't put out enough horsepower to keep King Tigers going for 10 miles straight without breaking down, yet in Aces we have a Tiger with perfect armor, can drive across any terrain without breaking down.
As for the HE-162, it shoudl be made the same way - I can see the durability being quite good, mostly made of wood. However the biggest problem is the engine being mounted so obvious, it wouldn't take much to put a He-162 out of action, think of how easy an Me-262 gets an oil leak, imagine having that engine mounted on the top rear where most deflection shots are going to hit?

HE-162 will make a nice boom and zoom fighter, if you get caught its going to be easy to shoot down. Thus being said, it depends again on the pilot - used correctly its 15 minute "Fuel" timer in the Main arena would be extended to 25-30 minutes climbing to alt and using cruise speed.

The only question I have is, there were only 1-2 kills with the HE-162, The squadron in service - did not have any gas to fly any combat sorties, does it make the cut to being added to Aces? no more then the Pershing tank does, but both can still be added.
It would get added in my opinion, however its so down on the list, I would put the Panzer II above it.

[Arlo]

... however its so down on the list, I would put the Panzer II above it.

And I'd put M3 Stuart before the Panzer II (we could go on and on). Which is why this project could wait until Dale decides to work on a '1946/SWOTL' arena.

[Butcher]

And I'd put M3 Stuart before the Panzer II (we could go on and on). Which is why this project could wait until Dale decides to work on a '1946/SWOTL' arena.

Problem is Arlo, the He-162 flew in combat in World war two and in squadron strength. I believe if you look 6 years back I posted the info on the He-162 back then, maybe even 8 years ago.

Its not a 1946 fighter sorry, it flew in combat during WW2 - different then a 1946 arena.

[Arlo]

Problem is Arlo, the He-162 flew in combat in World war two and in squadron strength. I believe if you look 6 years back I posted the info on the He-162 back then, maybe even 8 years ago.

Its not a 1946 fighter sorry, it flew in combat during WW2 - different th(a)n a 1946 arena.

Problem?

Butcher, `ol boy, I haven't once claimed that there wasn't a 162 squadron in 1945. What I'm saying, again, is that it's a waste of time to model .... unless HTC decides to feature a 1946 arena. In other words, there's over a decade worth of work concerning other toys that actually played more of a significant role in the real war than the 162 (this includes other aircraft, ground vehicles, ships). I played SWOTL years ago. If HT ever wants to feature that environment as an arena then the 162 might be a worthy project, though it would still be overshadowed in such a fantasy/what if environment by other German (and Allied) jets. Heck, Dale could even populate hangars with other 1945 (`44 or `43 for that matter) non-jet aircraft that are already modeled.  

[PJ_Godzilla]

They already have an F86 modelled

Why stop there? We all know damn well that next up would be phantom versus mig-21, 19, and 17 while thuds fire bull pups on some facsimile of the Dragon's Jaw... I'll take a nice F-5e, thank you, or perhaps an A-4 Skyhawk.

[Coalcat1]

Why stop there? We all know damn well that next up would be phantom versus mig-21, 19, and 17 while thuds fire bull pups on some facsimile of the Dragon's Jaw... I'll take a nice F-5e, thank you, or perhaps an A-4 Skyhawk.

Hey, there ain't no good nam sims out there +1!

[Coalcat1]

Ok,let's get back on topic before skuzzy decides to lock the thread due to us getting off topic...

[Butcher]

Problem?
Dale could even populate hangars with other 1945 (`44 or `43 for that matter) non-jet aircraft that are already modeled.  

Just pointing out the He-162 served in WWII not 1946, requirements for Aces high is to of been in combat service. We wouldn't need a 1946 Arena for it. And I agree - many other aircraft need to come first, however we don't have to rule out the He-162

[nrshida]

You're becoming unglued Coalcat1 

Wonder how well the glue will hold is parts inplace

Bit too subtle was I? 

[Randy1]

I think we have too many jets as it is.

Hear, hear!

[Someguy63]

I don't understand how two jets it "too many".