6./JG5 109G2

[Devil 505]

I can tell you for certain that this specific G-2 is NOT tropical. Therefore desert sand color is VERY incorrect.

This aircraft lacks the bumps for the filter mounts on the cowl, the bumps on the left side of the fuselage just forward of the lifting portion of the canopy for the umbrella, and it does not have the cooling scoop on the corner of the front canopy sheet metal.

[scarecrw]

I wish I could tell the difference like Devil. Listen to him. Go with my first references.

[Devil 505]

Here is a great pic that shows most of what I was referring to:

You can see the vent scoop just beneath the front windscreen as well as the two bumps for the umbrella mount. These are present on ALL tropical 109Gs. The windscreen scoops are present on all 109Gs anyway - but not always on the left side. Tropical 109s have them on BOTH sides, therefore Yellow 10's lacking of a left side scoop is a clear indication of being a standard build 109G-2.


On a second look on the filter mounts, those may not be apparent if removed.

[GhostCDB]

 

Devil -- You never cease to amaze me with your tedious comments. Sometimes I feel that you just comment to have your opinion
heard. I guess I should view it as constructive criticism but now it is just ridiculous. I appreciate what you are attempting
to educate me on but your explanations are too confusing. Thanks anyways, I guess. Oh and I am very capable of reading and I
have 20/10 vision so your EMPHASIS on words by typing them LARGE doesn't really help my reading nor' understanding of the
words.

Scarecrw -- That clears up a lot of my confusion in regards to the brown, thank you. I wasn't sure where the brown shade came
from because all of my RLM's are grouped based off the group they were usually used with and that RLM was with a different
shade of green. But your explanations make a lot of sense. I will remove the brown shade completely and re-do the RLM 70
shading. The brown tan just doesn't belong.


Will update the skin after the Pacific War Scenario
Which is going great Devil 


 

[scarecrw]

Awesome Django. I found a great photo of the plane in color last week (meant to post sooner but haven't gotten around to it) and now I can't find it at all. But I hope those digital photos gave more of an idea. They come from a great skinning JG5 recreation sight (they use IL-2 for their images). JG5 has weird handmedown planes with schemes. If you'd like, private message me and I can shoot it to you. They have a number of famous planes from JG5, the camo/schemes, and often links to original photos.

[Devil 505]

Devil -- You never cease to amaze me with your tedious comments. Sometimes I feel that you just comment to have your opinion
heard. I guess I should view it as constructive criticism but now it is just ridiculous. I appreciate what you are attempting
to educate me on but your explanations are too confusing. Thanks anyways, I guess. Oh and I am very capable of reading and I
have 20/10 vision so your EMPHASIS on words by typing them LARGE doesn't really help my reading nor' understanding of the
words.

Will update the skin after the Pacific War Scenario
Which is going great Devil  

If my posts seem condescending, I apologize. That is not the intent of my posts. I don't expect you to know all the minute details to differentiate the variants. As a model builder, game skinner, and amateur historian, I enjoy sweating those details. So where I see fit, I'll pass that knowledge to other skinners. While I do believe in artistic license, it only goes as far as reasonable interpretation of the facts. In this specific case, the details of the real aircraft indicate a standard built 109G-2 and not a tropical (desert) version.

I added text to that pic I posted earlier to show those details better.


Here's a G-6 trop with the umbrella mounted.
https://flic.kr/p/4nkG6C

Glad your having a great time in Scenario. I'm having a less than great time working on Saturdays.  

 

[FTJR]

I appreciate the detail you give Devil.

[LCADolby]

One of my best JG5 Sources has a common theme for Dobrichs G2





This following photo shows clearly the different colour tones at the nose


What has to be said is that the wings are very much like the sides of the aircraft and not what is currently on display.

[scarecrw]

Dolbs photo is better than mine. If it's a trop, it's a trop. Either way, I can't wait to see it.

[scarecrw]

I feel like Dolby's yellow 10 is different from the one I posted  

EDIT

Okay, so I looked into it a bit more and the reason mine and Dolby's look so different is because...well theyre different schemes on Dobrich's G2. I don't know if they are the exact same aircraft (it is possible) but they are completely different schemes.

Mine:








Dolby's (Notice the missing of the emblem by the cockpit





So, I'm not sure if he had a trop to start with but it looks like on that second scheme he had, it was in fact a trop or at least had the tan. Maybe he was shot down and given a replacement, who knows. But he flew 2 G2s and it comes down to your preference Django. Unless someone proves me wrong on this, this is how I see it. Devil says no tan, Dolby and Flyman say tan. Dolby's skinning source and information about the G2 has both of these G-2's listed under Dobrich with animations for both skins.

Mine:


Dolby's/Flyman's:
See Dolby's post.



But the question still exists on if it was the same aircraft or repainted. Either way, there were two schemes as shown by the missing of the emblem. This just gives you more options to choose from Django. I hope this clears up all arguments about the aircraft. So in this case, let's just say everyone is right and it's your personal preference lol  

[Motherland]

Devil -- You never cease to amaze me with your tedious comments. Sometimes I feel that you just comment to have your opinion
heard. I guess I should view it as constructive criticism but now it is just ridiculous. I appreciate what you are attempting
to educate me on but your explanations are too confusing. Thanks anyways, I guess. Oh and I am very capable of reading and I
have 20/10 vision so your EMPHASIS on words by typing them LARGE doesn't really help my reading nor' understanding of the
words.

There are a lot of people here that know a lot about things. Why you would be so hostile toward their guidance is beyond me. Especially Devil, who's easily one of the best skinners to turn up in a long while.
Aces High skins are supposed to be correct not vaguely reminiscent of the original aircraft. If people can point out details you missed (someone always will) you should be jumping for joy, not indignant and defensive that you haven't caught everything after a few months of looking at profiles.
You have a good hand and a nice sense for aesthetic but the way you ignore detail with a seeming sense of pride is a bit ridiculous

[scarecrw]

Another look at the front of Dolby's scheme, this is a bit closer and I think one of the umbrellas is there by the front of the cockpit (Devil will have to tell you, not me). It is obvious though that there is a second color other than the green and white (most likely tan).



Notice the front emblem has disappeared as well, not just the one by the cockpit.

[Someguy63]

Well scarecrow, Dobrich flew both G2's and F4's during '43. This might explain the similar but slightly different  schemes.

[LCADolby]

hope this helps

[GhostCDB]

Going to get back to work on this skin as soon as Pacific War is over, hopefully I can get to it before my Summer Seminar.
If not, I will get to it right before the Fall Semester starts.