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Offline Bizman

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Re: HDMI monitor cable?
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2014, 10:35:39 AM »
You can buy gold plated cables for just a few bucks on Amazon if you are worried about corrosion.



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Really? I mean, is the entire cable really gold plated? If so, I'd like to know because some of my customers might need such.

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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2014, 01:28:56 PM »
Really? I mean, is the entire cable really gold plated? If so, I'd like to know because some of my customers might need such.

The cheap gold plated connectors sometimes have such thin plating that the connectors last only a few cycles before the plating is worn off. Gold is so expensive that thick plating and cheap price do not exactly correlate good.
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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2014, 02:12:21 PM »
As I wrote on the previous side, golden connectors at the ends of a regular cable are just shiny. Snake oil as MrRipley said. Full length gold plated cable is something I had never heard of before Semp mentioned it, which led me to do some homework.
Quote from: http://www.stealthaudiocables.com/products/gold.htm
PRICING:

PGS retailed for $2000 per a 1 meter pair. RCA and balanced XLR were priced the same.
I suppose the cheap ones at Amazon only have gold plated connectors...


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« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2014, 03:36:20 PM »
actually I was just talking about the ends being good plated not the full cable. 



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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2014, 12:11:29 AM »
i switched to hdmi a couple years ago. the colors seem richer and details sharper.  i use a hdmi cable that was only 10 dollars. the cables that cost 60 , 70, and up are an absolute waste of money.

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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2014, 01:05:43 AM »
i switched to hdmi a couple years ago. the colors seem richer and details sharper.  i use a hdmi cable that was only 10 dollars. the cables that cost 60 , 70, and up are an absolute waste of money.

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With digital signals it's either 1 or 0, nothing in between like with analog signals. I'm not so familiar with how hdmi transfers the data, what sort of error correction there is between. In some cases like with audio cd:s if you start to lose bits of information the error correction algorithm can calculate the missing bits and 'fix' the sound up to a limit. Then at some point when enough data is lost, the bit depth of the signal will be reduced resulting in loss of quality or even total stoppage. If this is the case then in theory, a bad cable could force your monitor to error correct constantly and result in a worse image. I'm fairly sure however that if you would have a bad enough hdmi cable to start losing information it would appear as blockyness in moving picture or no picture at all. So it's pretty much either picture perfect or not working.
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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2014, 01:49:07 AM »
on some cables the zeros and ones are bigger than other  :uhoh.


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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2014, 09:07:17 AM »
  DVI or HDMI ??   or does it make no difference?  :headscratch:
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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2014, 09:22:42 AM »
 DVI or HDMI ??   or does it make no difference?  :headscratch:

It makes a difference if your hardware only has one or the other. HDMI is just a DVI + sound, simplified. For non-computer audio-video gear it makes a bigger difference because the hdmi carries the hdcp data also that the DVI doesn't. Without hdcp your hd home gear will refuse to work in most cases.

HDCP is a sort of a copy protection scheme, only certified hardwares can communicate with eachothers so you can't stream blu-ray for example direct to a regular computer in order to capture the data.
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« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2014, 10:37:27 AM »
It makes a difference if your hardware only has one or the other. HDMI is just a DVI + sound, simplified. For non-computer audio-video gear it makes a bigger difference because the hdmi carries the hdcp data also that the DVI doesn't. Without hdcp your hd home gear will refuse to work in most cases.

HDCP was always DVI compatible (since version 1)

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« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2014, 01:17:46 PM »
HDCP was always DVI compatible (since version 1)

Strange, I was always under the impression that hdtv:s and players lacked DVI ports because it didn't comply with hdcp.
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« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2014, 01:47:26 PM »
Strange, I was always under the impression that hdtv:s and players lacked DVI ports because it didn't comply with hdcp.

On a television, a DVI port and an HDMI port are identical.  The only difference is DVI does not provide for audio.  The two are electrically identical.  You can plug a television DVI connector into a television HDMI connector.  You just won't get any sound.
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« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2014, 02:10:15 PM »
Strange, I was always under the impression that hdtv:s and players lacked DVI ports because it didn't comply with hdcp.

DVI-A (analog) didn't have support for HDCP, but analog only DVI was extremely rare, DVI-I and DVI-D always had it.

Biggest differences are, as already mentioned, audio support and that DVI is RGB only, whilst HDMI had YCbCr support from get go. Back then that really didn't matter, and later on display-port replaced DVI, so YCbCr, xvYCC, etc support was never added to DVI.

Display-port also supports HDCP.