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Re: Drag modeling - what was changed?
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2014, 07:28:28 PM »
See rule 4
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Re: Drag modeling - what was changed?
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2014, 07:31:57 PM »

Hypothetically speaking...  If induced drag is modeled improperly by a greater proportion, how is that an improvement?
It was demonstrated that induced drag was too high.  HTC fixed that, but nobody, including HTC, claims that AH is perfect.  If you think otherwise about induced drag in AH it is all on you to support that claim.

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Re: Drag modeling - what was changed?
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2014, 07:34:43 PM »
See rule 4
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Re: Drag modeling - what was changed?
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2014, 07:44:21 PM »
Let's not speak hypothetically. If you have a specific issue or grievance, voice it. Don't dance around it with "hypothetical".


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Re: Drag modeling - what was changed?
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2014, 07:48:40 PM »
See Rule #2
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Re: Drag modeling - what was changed?
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2014, 07:55:57 PM »
See Rule #2
« Last Edit: May 08, 2014, 06:29:31 AM by Skuzzy »
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Re: Drag modeling - what was changed?
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2014, 08:12:08 PM »
If i am correct, the changes mostly effected the aircraft in the areas of drop tanks,rocket rails and bomb equipment. Even if the Aircraft itself doesn't model the code by eye candy, the effect* is still there. As in, even loading a bomb or DT will "add" that component to the plane, as in increased drag on the drop tank,and rails..as well as weight. Without or without the component being dropped, even if you drop your DT, even having the shakles for it ad's drag and weight. how much? test and find out. ;)


I found my P39Q without .50 gondolas & Dt removed can get better range with constant engine management "and better speed" then it ever could with the DT. Figure that math out.


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Re: Drag modeling - what was changed?
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2014, 09:16:08 PM »
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Re: Drag modeling - what was changed?
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2014, 10:49:51 PM »
Just curious.  It was changed 8 years ago, what does it matter?

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Because of this thread:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,358107.0.html

It was mentioned that the actual formula for induced drag was used as the direct code for drag modeling, yet it was mentioned above that "curves" were adjusted. Obviously, you can't have both and have it be 100% accurate, so there is some intermediate modeling going on. My question was what is that modeling and by how much is it adjusted.
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Re: Drag modeling - what was changed?
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2014, 11:29:11 PM »
Because of this thread:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,358107.0.html

It was mentioned that the actual formula for induced drag was used as the direct code for drag modeling, yet it was mentioned above that "curves" were adjusted. Obviously, you can't have both and have it be 100% accurate, so there is some intermediate modeling going on. My question was what is that modeling and by how much is it adjusted.

Now I'm curious.  Knowing this will help you how?  Or are you just wondering about the finer points of flight modeling?
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Re: Drag modeling - what was changed?
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2014, 11:30:17 PM »
Now I'm curious.  Knowing this will help you how?  Or are you just wondering about the finer points of flight modeling?

Call it curiosity at this point.
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Re: Drag modeling - what was changed?
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2014, 05:22:29 AM »
Call it curiosity at this point.


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Re: Drag modeling - what was changed?
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2014, 05:26:04 AM »
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Re: Drag modeling - what was changed?
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2014, 06:43:51 AM »
There's a picture of the numbers over a F4U's wing showing the modelling, sadly I don't have it, but I'm sure that picture that exists would help this discussion if anyone has it.
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Re: Drag modeling - what was changed?
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2014, 07:37:06 AM »
Call it curiosity at this point.
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