What do you consider a Beast! ?

[Randy1]

Ki 84 easiest plane to get kills in the game and takes more hits and more damage than any other fighter. 

If you have never tried the ki, you will get kills right out of the box.  Probably should be a 2 weeker's choice to get kills quickly with little training.

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truly...... you dont need ACM or BFM...or anything...it flies itself and gets you the kills...all on its own.

[GScholz]

262 isn't a beast. It's a dark angel on PCP and speed.

[Blinder]

as far as in game and on the ground. This is the #1 beast.




The other day in the main someone upped one from a GV base to defend against us. There were at least 8 of us in 76 Sherms, T-34/85s, a T-34/76  and a few other types but nothing real heavy. I flanked him in an M18. I got close enough to see his suspension clear as day in my sights but I still had a nice safe berm to duck behind. He was busy   to my 7+ cohorts when I opened up.

I hit him no less than 8 times before he turned his attention on me. I wisely left my engine running and he missed with his first shot. I didn't stick around for his reload.

If I can get that kind of pucker factor in a simulation 70 years after the fact. I can only imagine how those Hellcat boys on the Western Front must have felt for real when they encountered this monster.

[GhostCDB]

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[Slash27]

truly...... you dont need ACM or BFM...or anything...it flies itself and gets you the kills...all on its own.

Must have been sparked pretty hard by a Hayate expert. I don't recognize him so I guess it must have been you. 

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Must have been sparked pretty hard by a Hayate expert. I don't recognize him so I guess it must have been you. 

 

wasn't me......I dint do noffin....

[Rich46yo]

Spent some time in the KI-84 last night. Its a wonderful airplane, and Beastly in some respects, yet I would not call it a Beast! Its is fully capable against any late war prop airplane, even a Beast! And thats whats so "Beastly" about it. The Hayate is capable of exploiting something against almost any adversary. Maybe if it was faster across a wide range of Alts, or had 4 20mms, it would be a Beast!

As it is its just Beastly good. A very well balanced airplane. Wasnt there a production version with more and/or bigger cannon?

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Spent some time in the KI-84 last night. Its a wonderful airplane, and Beastly in some respects, yet I would not call it a Beast! Its is fully capable against any late war prop airplane, even a Beast! And thats whats so "Beastly" about it. The Hayate is capable of exploiting something against almost any adversary. Maybe if it was faster across a wide range of Alts, or had 4 20mms, it would be a Beast!

As it is its just Beastly good. A very well balanced airplane. Wasnt there a production version with more and/or bigger cannon?

4 20mm

and a 30 mm(although that is under question)

the thing that makes the Ki84 a beast is it is good to great in all aspects except in high speed, yet it is definitely NOT slow...

that and the ability to absorb rounds is what makes it truly "beastly"

[Rich46yo]

Well I wonder why we dont have the 4 20mm version then?

Yes its Beastly good. But still just a notch under being a true Beast! "Mind you I dont call the P51 a Beast! either".

The P-47M however...is.

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Well I wonder why we dont have the 4 20mm version then?

Yes its Beastly good. But still just a notch under being a true Beast! "Mind you I dont call the P51 a Beast! either".

The P-47M however...is.

only way you can call the P47M a beast(and have me agree is if you and me go to DA and you are able to Kill me ......at any ALT up to 25K....without resorting to the HO shot(I am NOT saying YOU are a HOer)

the Ki84 will easily beat any fighting P47.


I will warn ya...I had someone who already said the 47 could "hold its own" against the Ki84

we went to the DA he died every time...I think like 14 times I killed him in a row.....all the way up to I believe 23K..(which admittedly it was harder for me up that high) not because I was that much better then him...because the P47 is just NOT the dogfighter the Ki84 is...period.


now if we are talking about "Beastly" in the ground attack role......

P47 wins hands down.

[Latrobe]

The 109F4 is the beastiest of all beast. There is nothing in the skies that can match it 1 on 1. 

[Aspen]

KI84 vs 109F is one of my favorite fights.

Just notice your sig Latrobe. Can't stop chuckling.

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The 109F4 is the beastiest of all beast. There is nothing in the skies that can match it 1 on 1. 

I would almost agree with you....

JOACH1M I fought against and couldn't really kill him...yet I got guns first a few times, but could not capitalize on it...and I didn't play the E-game....which is how you would defeat the 109F

besides the fact he is a very skilled dueler.... one of the very best.

once you get past a certain point in skill level, the plane almost becomes a non-factor...

thats why a fighting vet in a P40 can kill a noob in a spit16.

[Randy1]

Well I wonder why we dont have the 4 20mm version then?

Yes its Beastly good. But still just a notch under being a true Beast! "Mind you I dont call the P51 a Beast! either".

The P-47M however...is.

The M is a beast when fighting down and or dominate E.  Kis beat the 47 by going up much the same as a K model do to suck the life out of the 47.  Its tempting if you have the E but it is one pass deal then either get the kill or pull away early to reset the fight.  As you know you can make a fight out of it but that weight of the 47 will be its downfall when the Ki keeps pulling the fight up.  The 47 is one of my two favorite planes so I understand your passion but I also know it has limitations that I all too often forget.