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Re: What do you consider a Beast! ?
« Reply #45 on: May 23, 2014, 03:31:34 PM »
Ki84 beats the 47 going Down or up....there is nothing the 47 can do against the Ki except HO it...and then if the stick in the KI is worth his salt...he will easily avoid it...

the only thing the 47 can do to avoid being killed by the Ki is run away.

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Re: What do you consider a Beast! ?
« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2014, 05:05:47 PM »
For how many approach flying in the MA, the 47M is a beast.  Fast, lots of guns, lots of ammo, dives away great and capable against the planes that can can catch it.
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Re: What do you consider a Beast! ?
« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2014, 06:11:02 PM »
the only thing the 47 can do to avoid being killed by the Ki is run away.

Or do some of that pilot s#!t. I've seen tail slides that would make a 109 turn green with envy.

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Re: What do you consider a Beast! ?
« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2014, 07:03:46 PM »
Or do some of that pilot s#!t. I've seen tail slides that would make a 109 turn green with envy.



 :rofl

people have tried those "tricks" with me......

and died right after....I faced the best there is in the 47....and he died...even with his silly little tail slides. ;)

it actually makes it easier to kill them.... :rofl

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Re: What do you consider a Beast! ?
« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2014, 07:24:00 PM »
190 D-9
turns well
has fine guns, also a load of ammo
can fly far with reduced throttle
has nice flaps and rudder
handles like a boss in the post-stall
lalas cannot run away that easily

and looks nice...

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Re: What do you consider a Beast! ?
« Reply #50 on: May 23, 2014, 07:27:03 PM »

 :rofl

people have tried those "tricks" with me......

and died right after....I faced the best there is in the 47....and he died...even with his silly little tail slides. ;)

it actually makes it easier to kill them.... :rofl
ok ki84 vs p47 in a close turnfight is not really fair.
i have tried those tricks too, 109 vs ki, i guess we were pretty close. Yea both the 109s and the ki84 handle beautifully.
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Re: What do you consider a Beast! ?
« Reply #51 on: May 23, 2014, 07:31:51 PM »
ok ki84 vs p47 in a close turnfight is not really fair.
i have tried those tricks too, 109 vs ki, i guess we were pretty close. Yea both the 109s and the ki84 handle beautifully.

absolutely right....47 vs Ki84 is not a fair fight.... :aok


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Re: What do you consider a Beast! ?
« Reply #52 on: May 23, 2014, 09:25:30 PM »
A6M3 is a beast. All other planes are a ton of suckage against it.

Except all other Japanese planes of course.

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Re: What do you consider a Beast! ?
« Reply #53 on: May 23, 2014, 09:28:03 PM »
A6M3 is a beast. All other planes are a ton of suckage against it.

Except all other Japanese planes of course.

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Was going to say, doesn't the Ki-43 pretty much beat the crap out of the A6M's?

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Re: What do you consider a Beast! ?
« Reply #54 on: May 23, 2014, 11:07:47 PM »
Ahem...


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Re: What do you consider a Beast! ?
« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2014, 01:52:57 AM »
Ahem...

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incredibly easy to avoid 1vs1....

but yes in the right hands...there is nothing as beastly.... :joystick:

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Re: What do you consider a Beast! ?
« Reply #56 on: May 24, 2014, 01:58:58 AM »
id take the Vlll over the -4 any day.

the speed advantage does one thing...allow it to run away....


but the KI-84 is the better dog fighter out of those...(at least IMO)

although the Spit-Vlll with a competent fighter at the helm is a very hard fight.

my list of "Beasts" (fighter mode only)

Ki-84(obviously my personal favorite)
pros.....extremely tough...very responsive...only thing it lacks is very high speed...but more then fast enough to keep up with the speed demons for a short time....
cons.....none
Spit-8-9-16...
pros....insane responsiveness....does everything good...
cons.....very weak
LA-7-
pros......very fast...climbs well...turn and responsiveness not so much....except in the hands of someone who A is a true fighter and B knows the plane well...
cons....crappy ammo ballistics...not much fuel.....not very tough
190D-
pros....very fast...incredible roll rate....lots of firepower
cons....very poor slow speed turning ability....weak
P51D-
pros....very fast....climbs great at high speed, maneuvers great at high speed...good guns
cons....slow speed responsiveness is very poor.....weak
Hurri2C-
pros...turns awesome..holds E well....dives well....some of the most powerful killing guns ingame.
cons....very slow....I mean snail slow....









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Re: What do you consider a Beast! ?
« Reply #57 on: May 24, 2014, 06:25:42 AM »

. . .the only thing the 47 can do to avoid being killed by the Ki is run away.

Not sure why you consider pulling away from a fight to take advantage of a planes attributes is bad.  People whine about the 51 in the same way.  I tried to engage you twice a couple of weeks ago and both times you went up.  Was that bad?  Of course not.  You played to your planes best side.  When you went up, I pulled away to reset.  Why is bad if I avoid a turn fight with a Ki and the Ki is going up?

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Re: What do you consider a Beast! ?
« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2014, 02:52:33 PM »
Not sure why you consider pulling away from a fight to take advantage of a planes attributes is bad.  People whine about the 51 in the same way.  I tried to engage you twice a couple of weeks ago and both times you went up.  Was that bad?  Of course not.  You played to your planes best side.  When you went up, I pulled away to reset.  Why is bad if I avoid a turn fight with a Ki and the Ki is going up?

never said it was "bad"... ;)

well it would be bad...if you had...
which you have learned.

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Re: What do you consider a Beast! ?
« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2014, 06:42:23 PM »
incredibly easy to avoid 1vs1....

but yes in the right hands...there is nothing as beastly.... :joystick:

Oh I totally agree.  But when you're up against one and the pilot of the 262 is making his passes at you at an almost vertical degree and zooming back up and quickly reversing again you feel a special kind of helplessness.