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Offline GScholz

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Re: Prop Turning by Hand
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2014, 08:32:17 PM »
No. The cylinders themselves extended into the crankcase and stuck up above the floor of the case about an inch so that oil didn't run into the cylinders. The only oil that fell into the cylinder was that which dripped off the crankshaft after shutdown, and it wasn't enough to fill the piston to the point that it ran through the oil ring groove drain holes and down past the compression rings into the combustion chamber. Hydraulic lock was never an issue with the DB's or the Jumo's. However there was another issue with the DB 600 series; it was very difficult to obtain consistent oil consumption since the rotation of the crankshaft one cylinder bank got more oil than the other. This increased oil consumption on one cylinder bank and reduced the anti-knock value of the fuel/air charge. For this reason the engine was built with different cylinder compression ratios on the two cylinder banks.
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Re: Prop Turning by Hand
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2014, 08:59:46 PM »
It's difficult to make out, but on the second cutout from the left you can see the top of the cylinder almost touching a counterweight on the crankshaft.

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Re: Prop Turning by Hand
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2014, 09:46:58 PM »
It's difficult to make out, but on the second cutout from the left you can see the top of the cylinder almost touching a counterweight on the crankshaft.

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Re: Prop Turning by Hand
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2014, 09:48:23 PM »
That's a DB 601 (Bf 109E/F,  Bf 110C). DB stands for Daimler Benz (same company that make Mercedes cars).
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Re: Prop Turning by Hand
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2014, 08:16:27 AM »
Well Earl, it doesn't seem like anyone knows both answers to your question. If checking for hydrolocks and pumping out oil is one of the reasons, what is the other?  :)
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Re: Prop Turning by Hand
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2014, 06:06:59 AM »
Well Earl, it doesn't seem like anyone knows both answers to your question. If checking for hydrolocks and pumping out oil is one of the reasons, what is the other?  :)
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Re: Prop Turning by Hand
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2014, 10:19:48 PM »
No piston rings make a perfect seal.

This means even a completely filled cylinder can be pulled through............it just takes longer than pulling a spark plug.

Even longer in cold conditions.