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Offline Raven3

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Grayed Out Plane Icons
« on: May 24, 2014, 07:39:19 AM »
I started this in the Help and Training forum, but thought I should continue it here. Every since the terrain update players plane "Icons" become grayed out, out past about 3K. I have tried everything in Waffel's and Skuzzy's stickys yet I have had no improvement.

It was suggested in Help and Training to post the first part of a dxdiag and I have done so below.  Any help would be appreciated and yes the graphics card is a Intel HD Graphics 4000 card.

System Information
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Time of this report: 5/24/2014, 06:24:50
       Machine name: NEWHP
   Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.140303-2144)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
       System Model: HP Pavilion dv6 Notebook PC
               BIOS: InsydeH2O Version 03.71.51F.29
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM CPU @ 2.30GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.3GHz
             Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8088MB RAM
          Page File: 2783MB used, 13389MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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          Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
       Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
          Chip type: Intel(R) HD Graphics Family
           DAC type: Internal
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0166&SUBSYS_181B103C&REV_09
     Display Memory: 1696 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 64 MB
      Shared Memory: 1632 MB
       Current Mode: 1400 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: SyncMaster 203B/206B, SyncMaster Magic CX203B(Analog)
      Monitor Model: SyncMaster
         Monitor Id: SAM021B
        Native Mode: 1400 x 1050(p) (59.978Hz)
        Output Type: HD15
        Driver Name: igdumd64.dll,igd10umd64.dll,igd10umd64.dll,igdumd32,igd10umd32,igd10umd32
Driver File Version: 8.15.0010.2626 (English)
     Driver Version: 8.15.10.2626
        DDI Version: 11
       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 1/18/2012 20:24:08, 8079872 bytes
        WHQL Logo'd: n/a
    WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
  Device Identifier: {D7B78E66-4226-11CF-D17F-1638B4C2C435}
          Vendor ID: 0x8086
          Device ID: 0x0166
          SubSys ID: 0x181B103C
        Revision ID: 0x0009
 Driver Strong Name: oem9.inf:IntelGfx.NTamd64.6.0:iIVBM0:8.15.10.2626:pci\ven_8086&dev_0166&subsys_181b103c
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       D3D9 Overlay: Supported
            DXVA-HD: Supported
       DDraw Status: Enabled
         D3D Status: Enabled
         AGP Status: Enabled

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Re: Grayed Out Plane Icons
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2014, 09:00:52 AM »
Quote from: Raven3 on May 24, 2014, 07:39:19 AM

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Display Devices
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          Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
       Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
          Chip type: Intel(R) HD Graphics Family
           DAC type: Internal
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0166&SUBSYS_181B103C&REV_09
     Display Memory: 1696 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 64 MB
      Shared Memory: 1632 MB
       Current Mode: 1400 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: SyncMaster 203B/206B, SyncMaster Magic CX203B(Analog)
      Monitor Model: SyncMaster
         Monitor Id: SAM021B
        Native Mode: 1400 x 1050(p) (59.978Hz)
        Output Type: HD15

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Yup, thats your problem. Your video card is running out of memory and so stops adding the color and so on here and there.

The game requirements for video say minimum is 256 MB , recommended 512 MB In the quote above your computer has 64 MB (red), well below the 256. To help they "borrow" ram from your system ram that is suppose to do all the other shuffling around. The games minimum is 2Gig, recommended 4Gig. You have 8 gig, but they allow almost 2 Gig (blue) to be used by the video card. This means less ram to run windows, the game, sound interface and so on.

You can turn down as much of the eye candy as you can and drop the texture size to 128. If your getting a decent frame rate ALL the time I'd suffer with greyed out icons. Droppping the graphics well help ease up on the card though.
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Re: Grayed Out Plane Icons
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2014, 09:16:15 AM »
Quote from: The Fugitive on May 24, 2014, 09:00:52 AM
Yup, thats your problem. Your video card is running out of memory and so stops adding the color and so on here and there.

The game requirements for video say minimum is 256 MB , recommended 512 MB In the quote above your computer has 64 MB (red), well below the 256. To help they "borrow" ram from your system ram that is suppose to do all the other shuffling around. The games minimum is 2Gig, recommended 4Gig. You have 8 gig, but they allow almost 2 Gig (blue) to be used by the video card. This means less ram to run windows, the game, sound interface and so on.

You can turn down as much of the eye candy as you can and drop the texture size to 128. If your getting a decent frame rate ALL the time I'd suffer with greyed out icons. Droppping the graphics well help easeon the card though.

Thank you. I will do as you suggested and, if I have to, live with it, at least for a while.

Thank you.  I soil do as you suggested
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Re: Grayed Out Plane Icons
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2014, 12:43:17 PM »
Also what I suspected right from the start:

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Display Devices
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          Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000

They really don't do well with AH. There's been threads about those during the last year or so, wouldn't hurt to check what Skuzzy suggested there. Either this TechSupport forum or the Hardware and Software section.
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Re: Grayed Out Plane Icons
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2014, 06:58:11 AM »
The real problem is the lack of dedicated video RAM.  Only 64MB of video RAM available, which is below the minimum for the game.  It means the video card is going to be swapping data to/from main system memory whenever the game tries to draw a frame.

We do what we can with the Intel video chip, but there is only so much we can do with its limited resources.
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Re: Grayed Out Plane Icons
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2014, 08:57:33 AM »
Quote from: Skuzzy on May 27, 2014, 06:58:11 AM
The real problem is the lack of dedicated video RAM.  Only 64MB of video RAM available, which is below the minimum for the game.  It means the video card is going to be swapping data to/from main system memory whenever the game tries to draw a frame.

We do what we can with the Intel video chip, but there is only so much we can do with its limited resources.

Understood. I have an Alienware X51 ordered which should solve the problem.  :)
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