30mm is buggy

[RotBaron]

Are they HE rounds in the K-4? What does the yellow/orange circle sprite represent?

Pony D took one to the belly other nite, flew along without incident, came back killed me 

[glzsqd]

K4's mk108 30mm round is indeed high explosive. The Yellow/orange circle sprite *or as I like to call it "the Cheesey puff"* represents the rounds detonation.

[Zimme83]

<S>

I think i got a clue for this recurrent problem :
Only bombers show the "bug", as Hitech couldnt reproduce it, i think it simply comes from the bombers "resist" at 30mm : some parts(maybe all) are by far "too" resistant at 30mm Mk108 gun (3-4 were needed to shoot one) and can handle 8-12 hits.

No "bug" reported on any fighter hits by the mk108.

Tested in offline mode and it happen on several occasions that a round hit the wing och a buff with no apparent damage, for ex B-24 it seems to be an area outside the outer engine that can take a hit, guess its no fuel tank or anything else in that area so u dont get a fuel leak or loose parts when hitting that area. So i agree with u, its not realy a bug, its just that the bomber can take a hit and keep flying.

[Zerstorer]

K4's mk108 30mm round is indeed high explosive. The Yellow/orange circle sprite *or as I like to call it "the Cheesey puff"* represents the rounds detonation.

Same with the 110G. 

Just remember..."the Cheesey puff" can kill YOU if you are too close to your target.  I've vaporized my 110 a few times...usually when taking a snap shot at someone in a flat sissors as they come across my nose. 

It always makes me sad. 

[glzsqd]

Same with the 110G. 

Just remember..."the Cheesey puff" can kill YOU if you are too close to your target.  I've vaporized my 110 a few times...usually when taking a snap shot at someone in a flat sissors as they come across my nose. 

It always makes me sad. 

110g2 has the mk108 as well as the 262, 163, 152 and 109G14. The Me410 has the mk103 gun package.

[Zerstorer]

110g2 has the mk108 as well as the 262, 163, 152 and 109G14. The Me410 has the mk103 gun package.

410s are only flown by masochists. 

[Drane]

Film of TA152 attacking formation of JU88s. What's wrong with the 30mm??????

This film is from ndisles terrain in late war arena today around 1420 hrs cst.

I broke off the attack after running out of 30mm. Never saw a landed or shot down message.

[Lucifer]

I left for several months, i come back, attack a B26 formation with a 109k4 : Hits rendered visually for the 30mm, but no damage dealt...

That bug is there since dec 2013... Plz HTC do something.


(As usual i filmed it, just say if u want this one too)...

 

[-ammo-]

I left for several months, i come back, attack a B26 formation with a 109k4 : Hits rendered visually for the 30mm, but no damage dealt...

That bug is there since dec 2013... Plz HTC do something.


(As usual i filmed it, just say if u want this one too)...

 

I would like to see this film

[Lucifer]

<S> Ammo

Plz pm with an e-mail i can use to send u the (horror) movie   (if it's ok for u ofc) 

I would like to see this film

[FBKampfer]

Simply post it here.

I'm far from the best shot, but 30mm's still reliably kill for me.

No, an engine hit will not always result in a kill, if you hit the spinner, it might not always kill the engine itself. B-26's are tough, scattering 30mm over the aircraft won't do anything.

Flew the 262 for the first time in a while, downed two aircraft with quick bursts from the first bank of 30mm's only. One kill, one assist which is easily explained; a friendly had been bnz'ing him for a while. The first 30mm must have finished a critical component, after which no damage is counted towards the kill.

[Lucifer]

7:59 : direct hit on left engine plane 1 (front)
7:59 : 2 direct hits on plane 2 (left of formation)   
10:24: Direct hits again on Plane 1
10:24: 2 MORE direct hits on plane 2 (left) !

No smoke, no leak, etc... Only 20mms do render damage.

 

[FBKampfer]

Post film. A bomber is a big aircraft and has a lot of area to take hits, and the B-26 is noted for its durability. The engine is a little surprising, but not impossible depending on where you hit exactly.

As for the rest, I'd be surprised if 4 30mm's all over the airframe took down a bomber. You'd have to get lucky and kill the pilot.



The 30mm's aren't wonder weapons. They don't magic parts off the target. If you think they are, or act as though they are, you're an idiot.


Looking at the statistics at the time of posting, the 109K has killed 1544 enemies, or almost as many as all the other 109's combined. The 262 had killed 1017. The 163 has killed 268.

In 17 days, that's 2829 kills we can confidently attribute to the Mk 108. Or 166 kills per day, 7 per hour (including the almost empty US night time period, more likely around  17 per hour).

Hardly disappointing, and I would say sufficient proof that the 30mm remains an effective weapon.

[Lucifer]

I never pretended the Mk108 was supposed to one-kill a B26 or any other bomber, the problem is that there is NO DAMAGE dealt on impact by the 30 mm canon!

Wherever a 30 mm hits a b-26 engine(for the 30mm hit on first plane), it would be IMPOSSIBLE that after such an highly explosive projectile impact, at less than 150m, no fuel leak, no oil leak, no engine mainframe parts flying away didnt occured...

Post film. A bomber is a big aircraft and has a lot of area to take hits, and the B-26 is noted for its durability. The engine is a little surprising, but not impossible depending on where you hit exactly.

As for the rest, I'd be surprised if 4 30mm's all over the airframe took down a bomber. You'd have to get lucky and kill the pilot.



The 30mm's aren't wonder weapons. They don't magic parts off the target. If you think they are, or act as though they are, you're an idiot.


Looking at the statistics at the time of posting, the 109K has killed 1544 enemies, or almost as many as all the other 109's combined. The 262 had killed 1017. The 163 has killed 268.

In 17 days, that's 2829 kills we can confidently attribute to the Mk 108. Or 157 kills per day, 6.5 per hour (including the almost empty US night time period, more likely around  15 per hour).

Hardly disappointing, and I would say sufficient proof that the 30mm remains an effective weapon.

[FBKampfer]

Since we have an all or nothing damage mode, what you just said it's entirely possible. You're doing damage; to claim otherwise it's just idiotic. You're just not killing parts, which is another thing entirely.

A pilot's .45 will do damage, as evidenced by the fact that you can get assists. It will not, however, get you a kill.

As for the engine, I suspect that it hit on the outer edge or the wing behind the engine, but not the engine itself. If you would simply post the film, I guarantee we could readily explain what you're seeing.