Author Topic: My first rant!!!  (Read 1434 times)

Offline Cremator

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 274
My first rant!!!
« on: June 06, 2014, 09:31:10 AM »
So there I was, 18,000 ft just looking for trouble. See a p47 below at about 13k. I began setting up my prey. Zoom in and he releases his ords and try's to follow me up. Just as he stalls I roll my nose over and there he sits like a wounded duck. One k, 800, 600, 400 and I open up. As we say in Arkansas, "I didn't even cut a feather!" I extend only to repeat my horrible gunnery. Over the course of the night I landed some kills but  on numerous occasions I  had the perfect set up, perfect scenerio, perfect everything except accuracy.

This rant is directed at one person and one person only, myself. I've set stuff up in offline practice and practiced and practiced. I won't give up, I won't be defeated. I'll just be glad when everything comes together.


Rant over!!!

<S> All.  Cremator
Back after 15 years. <S> Everyone. Cremator08@gmail.com. (Cremator in real life)

Offline RotBaron

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3561
Re: My first rant!!!
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2014, 09:47:35 AM »
Even the guys who are great shots complain that they stink, their definition is different than a novice's. They want to get hits/kills with least amount of bullets used.

I'm fine with just seeing the sprites, even if I used 1/4 of my ammo on one guy.

Takes a lot of practice and it's based off of feel in a lot of cases.

GL in your pursuit, be patient, it'll come.

 :salute
« Last Edit: June 06, 2014, 10:11:15 AM by RotBaron »
They're casting their bait over there, see?

Offline Someguy63

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2031
Re: My first rant!!!
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2014, 09:50:49 AM »
Let me warn you now of the situation where you think you've improved but then you go back to being horrible. It happened to me a lot. :)


Also try practicing against real people as well, they fly different than drones. :lol
Anarchy
#Taterz
-=Army of Muppets=-
"Imagination rules the world"

Offline The Fugitive

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 18235
      • Fugi's Aces Help
Re: My first rant!!!
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2014, 11:15:52 AM »
Keep your eyes open for Ryno's gunnery class. Even with my poor aim through the years a couple hours with him worked wonders.

Offline Cremator

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 274
Re: My first rant!!!
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2014, 11:26:14 AM »
Keep your eyes open for Ryno's gunnery class. Even with my poor aim through the years a couple hours with him worked wonders.



Ok thanks..... I'll do that...
Back after 15 years. <S> Everyone. Cremator08@gmail.com. (Cremator in real life)

Offline Chanter

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 132
Re: My first rant!!!
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2014, 11:47:24 AM »
Another plug for Ryno's gunnery session.  Was on it last week (with fugitive) and it is an eye opener for sure.  :salute
1841 Fleet Air Arm

Offline Changeup

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5688
      • Das Muppets
Re: My first rant!!!
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2014, 12:39:59 PM »
So there I was, 18,000 ft just looking for trouble. See a p47 below at about 13k. I began setting up my prey. Zoom in and he releases his ords and try's to follow me up. Just as he stalls I roll my nose over and there he sits like a wounded duck. One k, 800, 600, 400 and I open up. As we say in Arkansas, "I didn't even cut a feather!" I extend only to repeat my horrible gunnery. Over the course of the night I landed some kills but  on numerous occasions I  had the perfect set up, perfect scenerio, perfect everything except accuracy.

This rant is directed at one person and one person only, myself. I've set stuff up in offline practice and practiced and practiced. I won't give up, I won't be defeated. I'll just be glad when everything comes together.


Rant over!!!

<S> All.  Cremator

Some nights you're the pigeon, some nights you're the statue.
"Such is the nature of war.  By protecting others, you save yourself."

"Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered.  Those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid.  Thus, the wise win before the fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Morihei Ueshiba

Offline zack1234

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 13217
Re: My first rant!!!
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2014, 12:44:30 PM »
 :)
There are no pies stored in this plane overnight

                          
The GFC
Pipz lived in the Wilderness near Ontario

Offline LCADolby

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7458
Re: My first rant!!!
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2014, 12:45:01 PM »
A chap with determination. That's the Spirit!  :rock
JG5 "Eismeer"
YouTube+Twitch - 20Dolby10

MW148 LW301
"BE a man and shoot me in the back" - pez
"i’m good with just the game" - Animl-AW

Offline shotgunneeley

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1054
Re: My first rant!!!
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2014, 01:07:09 PM »
How are your cockpit views set? i have mine set so where I thumb the hat switch forward, i can look somewhat over the engine cowling. I find my problem is over leading especially in turn fights. My rant is towards nerfed 20mm cannons. Three times in a row I put 6 shots into fighters at d400 and gave no more than a fuel leak, one even reversed and shot me down.

Also make sure your joystick axis are set to make sure you arent nose bouncing too bad. Got mine tuned in and now i feel much more stable



"Lord, let us feel pity for Private Jenkins, and sorrow for ourselves, and all the angel warriors that fall. Let us fear death, but let it not live within us. Protect us, O Lord, and be merciful unto us. Amen"-from FALLEN ANGELS by Walter Dean Myers

Game ID: ShtGn (Inactive), Squad: 91st BG

Offline SKJohn

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 792
Re: My first rant!!!
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2014, 01:09:15 PM »
Use the force!

Or, I can't remember which Luftwaffe ace it was, but I seem to recall him saying something to the effect of "I fly so close my windscreen is filled with the enemy, then when I fire - I can't miss!"

Offline Kingpin

  • AH Training Corps
  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1071
Re: My first rant!!!
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2014, 01:32:18 PM »
Cremator,

I think you have the right attitude in that you already want to focus on and practice your gunnery.  If you see me in game, shoot me a PM.  I'll be happy to show you some basics and some practice techniques.

Unless you are just an absolute natural, gunnery is one of the hardest things to learn and the easiest skill to get rusty at, if you don't practice.  Also, every aircraft has it's own nuances to how it shoots, different armament, different ballistics, different effects of your convergence settings, etc.  So, it takes some time to learn to use each aircraft effectively.


RotBaron is right about their being different "levels" (I call them "plateaus") of gunnery.  Last night I was frustrated that I was only landing 2 or 3 kills in a sortie (and 2 or 3 assists), instead of the 4 to 6 kills that I thought I should have.  I like to average 3 or 4 kills per assist, which tells me I'm hitting my targets hard when I set up shots.  That's one of the fun things in the game, as you improve you can raise the bar higher and higher for yourself -- I guess that's the nature of competitive people, too.

There is also a lot of "good flying" that goes hand in hand with "good gunnery".  I see lots of people who fly to get "bad shots" instead of flying to set up "good shots".  That is something better shown, than explained though.

At any rate, I'd be happy to give you some tips at some point if you see me in game [ID: RynoRush]. Or just shoot me a PM here on the forum, and maybe we can schedule a time in the TA.

Keep practicing. And be patient (that goes for practice and when shooting!) - and the kills will come.

<S>
Ryno

« Last Edit: June 06, 2014, 01:53:11 PM by Kingpin »
Quote from: bozon
For those of us playing this game for well over a decade, Aces High is more of a social club. The game just provides the framework. I keep logging in for the people and Pipz was the kind that you keep coming to meet again.

Offline Zoney

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6503
Re: My first rant!!!
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2014, 01:47:03 PM »
Cremator,  :salute , welcome to the game sir.  I am very glad you are here.  After 20 years of playing from AirWarrior through Warbirds and finally to Aces High, I still have bad days when I struggle with my gunnery.  I try to relax when this happens and be patient, otherwise I end up just emptying my guns into the air.  Also, lead your target more and get closer, are always the 2 things that will help.  It may help if you fly "Cannon Birds" as it takes fewer hits to bring your enemy down, and Luftwaffe planes are the most fun anyway.  If you are not already, I would also suggest you join a squad.  You learn faster and it is more fun.  Squads also participate in the "FSO", "Friday Squad Operations".  This is a 2 hour operation on Friday evenings that hundreds of the best sticks and squads participate in.  It is not a "free for all" like the Main Arena.  You only get one life and one plane, you must follow orders, you must fly the aircraft you are assaigned and do the mission your squad is tasked with.  Please find a squad that will take you immediately so you can fly it tonight.  You must set this up before you go into the arena, do not wait untill the last minute, do it now.

If there is anything I can help you with, just ask.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2014, 01:49:42 PM by Zoney »
Wag more, bark less.

Offline LilMak

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1344
Re: My first rant!!!
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2014, 01:51:55 PM »
My biggest problem lately has been having to hit an enemy 6 or 7 times before a single part falls off. It seems I'll have a our 4 or 5 sorties where no matter how hard or often I hit the enemy little to no damage is done. Then I'll have 1 or 2 sorties where I'm doing normal damage.
"When caught by the enemy in large force the best policy is to fight like hell until you can decide what to do next."
~Hub Zemke
P-47 pilot 56th Fighter Group.

Offline SkyRock

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7758
Re: My first rant!!!
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2014, 01:57:15 PM »
SkyRock<----owns Cremator and slaps him around with some old LilMak scalps lying around!










 :noid

Triton28 - "...his stats suggest he has a healthy combination of suck and sissy!"