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Offline gblade30

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new ww2 movie
« on: June 13, 2014, 07:53:37 AM »
http://collider.com/fury-trailer-brad-pitt/#MJgAuGW3lxR4WKGQ.01

whats every1 think is this gonna be worth watching ????
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2014, 08:08:03 AM »
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There's 2 reasons it could really suck. I also have a suspicion they will show a single Sherman ripping through Tigers according to the story.
Hopefully I'm wrong.
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Re: new ww2 movie
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2014, 09:19:08 AM »
Quote from: rpm on June 13, 2014, 08:08:03 AM
There's 2 reasons it could really suck. I also have a suspicion they will show a single Sherman ripping through Tigers according to the story.
Hopefully I'm wrong.

Yep, similar thoughts to mine, as long as Affleck shows up in a Pony shouting "hammer down" it should be a good flick :banana:
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Re: new ww2 movie
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2014, 09:46:57 AM »
Quote from: rpm on June 13, 2014, 08:08:03 AM
There's 2 reasons it could really suck. I also have a suspicion they will show a single Sherman ripping through Tigers according to the story.
Hopefully I'm wrong.

thats what i thought too  :cheers:
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2014, 10:02:17 AM »
Hopefully the attention to detail with regards to equipment is high for this one. Historical accuracy is paramount for the scrutinizing military history buff which most of us are. This makes me think back to Enemy at the Gates, which in itself, was a very good movie right up until the point where I spotted the dead T-34/85 in town.  :bhead

Hopefully Fury has a lock on the accuracy. 
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2014, 10:27:19 AM »
One of the worst parts about these kind of movies for me are the interior shots. Some of the plane interior scenes in Red Tails made the insides of the plane look too big (the B17's crew/gunner areas especially), U571 was the same way. From the clip shown for Fury in your link it appears that the inside of the Sherman is quite spacious as well.  Maybe I'm full of it, but its those kinds of things that kill the immersion for me. (and scenes like the end of Red Tails when the main character takes several 30mm explosive shells to the chest, yet he somehow isn't turned into a red meaty goo spread over the cockpit :rolleyes:)

Still...I'm sure I'll end up watching Fury as it still looks much better than Monuments Men; might wait for it to hit the red-box kiosk though.
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2014, 11:22:26 AM »
Those of us who have studied the war, spoken with the veterans who were there, and have researched the hard data will have to keep in mind that this movie is for entertainment purposes.  On the same token, much of what is seen on the History Channel and Military Chanel is rather watered down so everyone watching it can grasp the "facts" and drama.  So be careful of what you see on TV or in the movies, period. Original sources, veteran testimony, and hard data from military testing/trials/engagements will take you, as an amateur historian, a lot further.  In the meantime just enjoy the movie and a bowl of popcorn, ok?   :D

Can a Sherman tank destroy a Tiger I?  Sure, under the right circumstances.   :aok 
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2014, 11:28:11 AM »
Quote from: tmetal on June 13, 2014, 10:27:19 AM
One of the worst parts about these kind of movies for me are the interior shots. Some of the plane interior scenes in Red Tails made the insides of the plane look too big (the B17's crew/gunner areas especially), U571 was the same way.

I guess they figure it's a logistics of filming thing is why they do this. But then you have a movie like Das Boot which literally oozed the claustrophobia of the tiny space of the u-boat BECAUSE of the way it was filmed. That's the effect I'd rather see projected.
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Re: new ww2 movie
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2014, 12:06:41 PM »
Quote from: tmetal on June 13, 2014, 10:27:19 AM
One of the worst parts about these kind of movies for me are the interior shots.

Yeah, I can recall several B-movies from the 40's and 50's with tank interiors that looked more like handball courts. And anyone who's ever crawled up thru the forward crew hatch on a B-17 knows how spacious that airplane is.  :huh
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2014, 12:09:25 PM »
Quote from: tmetal on June 13, 2014, 10:27:19 AM
One of the worst parts about these kind of movies for me are the interior shots. Some of the plane interior scenes in Red Tails made the insides of the plane look too big (the B17's crew/gunner areas especially), U571 was the same way. From the clip shown for Fury in your link it appears that the inside of the Sherman is quite spacious as well.  Maybe I'm full of it, but its those kinds of things that kill the immersion for me. (and scenes like the end of Red Tails when the main character takes several 30mm explosive shells to the chest, yet he somehow isn't turned into a red meaty goo spread over the cockpit :rolleyes:)

Still...I'm sure I'll end up watching Fury as it still looks much better than Monuments Men; might wait for it to hit the red-box kiosk though.

Coupled with the fact that it took a British Military victory and portrayed it as a US one, along with the bumbling English duffers in the background :confused:
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2014, 12:45:05 PM »
Just did some research on "Fury". Apparently they used a REAL Tiger (1st time in a film) for some of the filming. Still I suspect the movie to be "Hollywoodfied" to the point of being laughable. We'll see.
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2014, 01:30:33 PM »
Stalingrad had a good infantry vs tank battle until you spied the post WW2 tanks in the background behind the T34s. It was still a good scene, and you did capture the terror of such a fight, as long as you took it with a grain of salt.

Im sure they had no problem finding Shermans but are there even any rolling Tigers left? Or are they all going to have to be CG?

The myth still seems to persist the Sherman was a useless tank. The Shermans with their 17lb'ers were a great enough threat to tie down most of the best German armor around Caen allowing an allied break out. Even the 75mm could kill a Tiger but the Sherman really became a dangerous tank with the 76mm HV gun. One has to realize if there was ever terrain favorable to defense, and troops able to use such terrain, it was the German army in Normandy in the summer of '44.

There were some great panzer units in France at the time and they fought their tanks very well using all the advantages available.
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2014, 02:12:00 PM »
too Hollywood prolly


Wasn't even familiar with a new Stalingrad release until now.


This Stalingrad was a good movie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalingrad_%281993_film%29

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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2014, 02:58:14 PM »
Quote from: tmetal on June 13, 2014, 10:27:19 AM
One of the worst parts about these kind of movies for me are the interior shots. Some of the plane interior scenes in Red Tails made the insides of the plane look too big (the B17's crew/gunner areas especially), U571 was the same way. From the clip shown for Fury in your link it appears that the inside of the Sherman is quite spacious as well.  Maybe I'm full of it, but its those kinds of things that kill the immersion for me. (and scenes like the end of Red Tails when the main character takes several 30mm explosive shells to the chest, yet he somehow isn't turned into a red meaty goo spread over the cockpit :rolleyes:)

Still...I'm sure I'll end up watching Fury as it still looks much better than Monuments Men; might wait for it to hit the red-box kiosk though.

Red Tails and U-571 are two of the worst films in the history of films!
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2014, 03:17:24 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on June 13, 2014, 02:58:14 PM
Red Tails and U-571 are two of the worst films in the history of films!

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