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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2014, 10:43:49 PM »
Why?  :huh

I don't think that they add any fun to a fight among prop planes.  They zoom through fights, largely untouchable by anything other than fellow 262's.  You need to keep an eye out for them when they are around, taking attention away from the fight at hand.  If you are chasing someone, they are great at breaking you off, and if you are trying to make it away from a horde, they are great at pinning you down -- again, mostly without you being able to do anything in return.

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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2014, 10:45:04 PM »
I don't think that they add any fun to a fight among prop planes.  They zoom through fights, largely untouchable by anything other than fellow 262's.  You need to keep an eye out for them when they are around, taking attention away from the fight at hand.  If you are chasing someone, they are great at breaking you off, and if you are trying to make it away from a horde, they are great at pinning you down -- again, mostly without you being able to do anything in return.


Then you aren't fighting them correctly.


All you gotta do is HO them.

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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2014, 10:57:36 PM »
I don't think that they add any fun to a fight among prop planes.  They zoom through fights, largely untouchable by anything other than fellow 262's.  You need to keep an eye out for them when they are around, taking attention away from the fight at hand.  If you are chasing someone, they are great at breaking you off, and if you are trying to make it away from a horde, they are great at pinning you down -- again, mostly without you being able to do anything in return.

The point is that it's fun for the guy in the 262. That's why he's risking all those perks. The peeps flying Hurris, Zekes and other slow turners are having the same difficulties dealing with Runstangs, Run90s and other fast late-war rides.
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2014, 11:15:46 PM »

Then you aren't fighting them correctly.


All you gotta do is HO them.

1.  That doesn't work well when you are in a many-on-many fight because, as you turn away from your fight to try to line up a HO on the 262, another guys shoots you down.

2.  That doesn't work well when the 262 is competently flown.

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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2014, 11:22:30 PM »
The point is that it's fun for the guy in the 262. That's why he's risking all those perks.

Sure, it's fun for him.  So would be a nuke available to 1000 perks, or a button someone can push for 100 perks a pop that cuts out everyone's engine for 10 seconds.  It might be a giggle fest for that guy.  But for that one guy's fun, there are a bunch of other people whose fun is diminished.

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The peeps flying Hurris, Zekes and other slow turners are having the same difficulties dealing with Runstangs, Run90s and other fast late-war rides.

It's a matter of degree.  How much salt do you like in your soup?  Most people like some.  Most do not like 5 lbs. of salt in their soup, though.   P-51's, 190D's, etc. are like some salt.  A 262 is like 5 lbs of salt.

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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2014, 11:32:53 PM »
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2014, 12:28:12 AM »
Sure, it's fun for him.  So would be a nuke available to 1000 perks, or a button someone can push for 100 perks a pop that cuts out everyone's engine for 10 seconds.  It might be a giggle fest for that guy.  But for that one guy's fun, there are a bunch of other people whose fun is diminished.

It's a matter of degree.  How much salt do you like in your soup?  Most people like some.  Most do not like 5 lbs. of salt in their soup, though.   P-51's, 190D's, etc. are like some salt.  A 262 is like 5 lbs of salt.

No one is responsible for other peoples fun, only their own. Unless you stumble upon one of those rare individuals who like losing, every time you pull the trigger on someone you're diminishing other people's fun. Why do you think ch200 is what it is?

A 262 is a hundred mph faster than a Pony. A Pony is a hundred mph faster than a Hurri. A Hurri is a hundred mph faster than a Stuka. A Stuka is a hundred mph faster than a Storch. A Storch is a hundred mph faster than a tank.

Everyone is faster than someone else unless you're in a chute.
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2014, 12:58:08 AM »
No one is responsible for other peoples fun, only their own. Unless you stumble upon one of those rare individuals who like losing, every time you pull the trigger on someone you're diminishing other people's fun. Why do you think ch200 is what it is?

A 262 is a hundred mph faster than a Pony. A Pony is a hundred mph faster than a Hurri. A Hurri is a hundred mph faster than a Stuka. A Stuka is a hundred mph faster than a Storch. A Storch is a hundred mph faster than a tank.

Everyone is faster than someone else unless you're in a chute.

I wonder if I should post the screenshot of me nailing a 262 that went from my 6 to 12 o clock. Disappeared with a big 'poof', direct it with 88  :rock


Well, when I get my new computer, I may try out the 262, never flown it on my old rig because I would probably warp 3k at a time  :lol
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2014, 01:57:42 AM »
A new gaming rig might be needed then, yes!  :cheers:
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2014, 02:26:44 AM »
Saw some raging on 200 because of you flying a 262 and vulching them. Solution, up a wirb or OST and have a friend as bait  :D

Like me, I had a 262 stalking me and a squadie dispatched him in a Wirble very nicely.
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2014, 02:27:08 AM »
only thing to do is to add the Meteor MK III,   then it will make the flying the 262 more enjoyable having something else to look out for.  

Of course it can still run around like it does now but the virtual sky will be a little extra dangerous when quad hizookas start whizzing by.  

Plus everything is cooler with roundels on it.
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2014, 02:42:14 AM »
Yeah. Why don't you see the guys that fly 51s in the same light? And I'll pose that question to the rest of you too. This community is weird. Everyone rags of the P51 guy that runs but never a harsh word for the Tempest or 262 guys that do the same exact thing. Why is that?
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How many P51s pilots are flying in and how many against the horde?  ;)

Otherwise ask Latrobe how i was handling his lone 190D in my 262. Yes, i ended up biting the dust - ouch, the 190D turns better than the 262  :rofl
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2014, 03:02:45 AM »
There's always someone who sees the 262 as a dirty airplane. But I suspect it's mostly a case of "the fox and the grapes"  :bolt:.

I've been shot down by 262s but almost always in bombers since I'm a lousy gunner. If you're in a fighter it's quite easy to evade the passes or force a HO that he will most probably evade. Did that in a Mossie XVI a week ago.
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2014, 05:25:19 AM »
Someone who brings a jet to a prop fight is a duche. They simply enjoy the feeling of invulnerability and frustrating the enemy. That is until they get over confident and decide to pass within 1000 yards in front of a mossie VI, or even more stupid - accept a HO. If they were there for the fight they would not turn tail and run when I show up in another 262 to hunt them down. Sure, some of them will beat me in a jet dogfight because frankly, I have no idea how to handle the jet, but still their first reaction is to run, run, run until they cant run anymore and only when out of options turn to fight.

In my moral ranking, flying a 262 is even lower than La7s and Yak3s, unless it is used to fight other jets. Chasing down F4U4s and tempests is also marginally acceptable when enemy jets are not available. Strafing GVs is cool. Since my $14.95 are greener, everyone should play by my rules.

The way to deal with an annoying 262 is to collect a few buddies and come with 4 262s to hunt him. I will pay the perks for the other 3 if HTC allowed it.
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2014, 05:35:09 AM »
Bozon, i would be curious, how would you collect the "horde tax" without a jet?

Only talking about killing as many vulchers as possible. Bringing a jet to an even fight is something wrong in my book.
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