Why Are People Fussing About 262's?

[Coalcat1]

I wasn't vulching in my 262. I was just horde killing.



Don't complain 'bout no darn 262's flying over if ya aint willing to die. 

Someone was vulching in a 262 

[Coalcat1]

The 262, along with the pony and F6F, is one of the best base defense fighters in the game, able to repel a hoard if there are a few( repelled a bish 38 raid once with 4 262s). In that respect, it has no equal and if you don't fly with the hoard, you won't get shot down for the most part. My squad only uses the 262 for hoard defense and on rare occasions, buff hunting, so if you are not in a hoard, didn't just take one of our bases, or aren't in buffs, you are safe.

[bozon]

Bozon, i would be curious, how would you collect the "horde tax" without a jet?

Only talking about killing as many vulchers as possible. Bringing a jet to an even fight is something wrong in my book.

If you come in a 262 you may kill one, then do a long extend and come back again. Most passes they will just avoid you and keep on vulching.

Come in a mosquito. Everyone will stop the vulch and try to kill you. Even the paratroopers jump back into the C-47 and come after you. Vulch broken, let your friends shoot the fixated reds off of your tail.

[Scca]

I hate 'em because I can't hit doody in them... 

[Lusche]

There's one thing the 262 excels at:
No, not killing bombers. Not, not killing vulchers - Dragging vulchers away from a field. If there's really many of them, it's much more effective that trying to kill them all. Everybody wants to kill a 262, and if you fly low and so slow that they think they have a chance catching you... they will leave their perch and pile on you.
I have done that many a time, breaking a cap by playing Rat Catcher of Hamelin 

[Zerstorer]

262s are nothing more than an annoyance. Well... Except if SkyRock is in one. 

[Golden Dragon]

How many P51s pilots are flying in and how many against the horde? 

You'll often find me against the horde.  I've single handedly wrecked many a Bish heavy fighter mission when I caught them from above.  My favorite was breaking one up without firing a single shot, making most of them jettison and unsuccessfully chase me from alt down to the deck.  The 200 taunts for the runstang were icing on the delicious cupcake.

[Brooke]

No one is responsible for other peoples fun, only their own.

Maybe and maybe not -- that's a personal choice.  There are certainly people in the game (and in life) who feel that way, and there are people who feel the opposite (and so are helpful to newcomers, participate in group activities that maybe they don't like the best but feel like helping out such as by driving an M3, or resupplying some folks, or being a scout in a scenario, and so on).

However, that wasn't my point.  I hate 262's.  <--- that's a period at the end of that, right there.

A 262 is a hundred mph faster than a Pony. A Pony is a hundred mph faster than a Hurri. A Hurri is a hundred mph faster than a Stuka. A Stuka is a hundred mph faster than a Storch. A Storch is a hundred mph faster than a tank.

Everyone is faster than someone else unless you're in a chute.

Well, a 262 is 160 mph faster than a P-51; a Hurricane is 30 mph faster than a Stuka; and Storches, Tanks, and the airspeed of buildings and parachutes aren't relevant to the discussion (although if you disagree, I hope that we can still agree to forgo a debate over it).  However, yes, a P-51 is 100 mph faster than a Hurricane.

But the game isn't everyone in a Hurricane and a few people in P-51's.  The game is some people in Hurricanes, some in 109F's, some in Spit 16's, some in F6F's, etc. -- a distribution of planes that fully span that 100 mph gap.  There isn't much in the 150 mph gap to the 262.

[Brooke]

Also (a continuation of thoughts of my previous post), it is possible to have a historical scenario of all P-51's, P-47's, or P-38's on one side vs. all Zeroes on the other side.  That is a approx. only a 60 mph gap -- and I can tell you from flying in one of those in Air Warrior the 1990's that it wasn't the most fun.

[Wiley]

I have done that many a time, breaking a cap by playing Rat Catcher of Hamelin 

Yup.  It drags better than most.

I also understand Brooke's POV.  I don't agree with it, but I understand why he doesn't like them in the game.  Had a squaddie who was of the same opinion for similar reasons.

I think they add a bit of spice to a furball on occasion, and are useful for horde breaking.  I generally don't like to see them flying in a large horde, although when you get one of those rare sustained many both sides furballs, it can be a ball with 262s on both sides trying to slow the other ones down enough so the prop planes can get at them.

Wiley.

[Debrody]

You'll often find me against the horde. 

Thats great! And how many ponies are you killing on each and every vulchbuster mission? 

If you come in a 262 you may kill one, then do a long extend and come back again. Most passes they will just avoid you and keep on vulching.

Come in a mosquito. Everyone will stop the vulch and try to kill you. Even the paratroopers jump back into the C-47 and come after you. Vulch broken, let your friends shoot the fixated reds off of your tail.

Indeed, the Mossie is awesome if you have friends 
Still, getting 10+ kills in the jet isnt that hard - but only on the vulchers.

[Lusche]

In the reality of the MA, the 262 is predominantly being used as a bomber killer though.

[Wiley]

In the reality of the MA, the 262 is predominantly being used as a bomber killer though.

That's interesting, based on my experience, I wonder if it might be more of a tendency to be predominantly more successful as a bomber killer, as opposed to that being the intended use of the sortie.  Your stats are based on kills by, right?  Most of the 262s I see flying are trying to kill unaware fighters with limited success.

Wiley.

[Golden Dragon]

I also see them flying around mostly to catch unaware fighters.  I've certainly been bagged this way.  They're pretty easy to shoot down from a bomber.

[scott66]

I only upped a 262 once in the MA...flew around looking for strat runners..went to land and blew up..didn't know about killing engine before landing.I only have 1000 fighter perks, thinking I'll try again