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Offline Rich46yo

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Re: Not Easy Mode Planes
« Reply #45 on: June 24, 2014, 12:36:57 PM »
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Also there are many planes that can out turn a K4.

Yeah if you flat turn it. But who would be dumb enough to flat turn a K4?
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Re: Not Easy Mode Planes
« Reply #46 on: June 24, 2014, 12:47:44 PM »
When I played the K4 was considered a very good airplane, but only to those few who took the time to master it. Otherwise it was a finicky beast with a difficult gun, very difficult for the inexperienced to excel in. It's interesting to see how that perception has changed.

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Re: Not Easy Mode Planes
« Reply #47 on: June 24, 2014, 12:59:21 PM »
When I played the K4 was considered a very good airplane, but only to those few who took the time to master it. Otherwise it was a finicky beast with a difficult gun, very difficult for the inexperienced to excel in. It's interesting to see how that perception has changed.

I dont think the "reality" has changed. It is a "finicky beast with a difficult gun". Yet it is also a Beast! Its very, very fast and climbs like a monkey.
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Re: Not Easy Mode Planes
« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2014, 01:00:03 PM »
When I played the K4 was considered a very good airplane, but only to those few who took the time to master it. Otherwise it was a finicky beast with a difficult gun, very difficult for the inexperienced to excel in. It's interesting to see how that perception has changed.

Not many noobs anymore  :(.

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Re: Not Easy Mode Planes
« Reply #49 on: June 24, 2014, 06:25:23 PM »
110c turns good for a short while, but lacks the power and speed for LWA, and the 20mm FF and peashooters force you to close in to kill.
Even a HO against a 110c might be a good idea due to the 20mm FF short range. 110g2 is quite another bird though, 110c often gets mistaken for a G2, and everyone avoids your front arc like plaque until they find out.

Chasing buffs give you one opportunity to HO them once , but most buffs are faster than the 110c, and front .50 kills you easy.

Its one of the hardest planes to get good K/D in since everyone try for you disregarding all other planes, also very fragile.
One feature it shares with the 110g and 410 is its good diving capability.
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Re: Not Easy Mode Planes
« Reply #50 on: June 24, 2014, 08:56:03 PM »
110c turns good for a short while, but lacks the power and speed for LWA, and the 20mm FF and peashooters force you to close in to kill.
Even a HO against a 110c might be a good idea due to the 20mm FF short range. 110g2 is quite another bird though, 110c often gets mistaken for a G2, and everyone avoids your front arc like plaque until they find out.

Chasing buffs give you one opportunity to HO them once , but most buffs are faster than the 110c, and front .50 kills you easy.

Its one of the hardest planes to get good K/D in since everyone try for you disregarding all other planes, also very fragile.
One feature it shares with the 110g and 410 is its good diving capability.


I lost a 110C in a HO with a Zero.  :lol
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Re: Not Easy Mode Planes
« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2014, 09:01:34 PM »
I lost a 110C in a HO with a Zero.  :lol
I killed an F4U-1C in an HO with me in an A6M5b.  It is just a matter of who hits, or, as in my personal example, who hits better.  The cannons on the A6M5b and N1K2-J are the second hardest hitting 20mm cannons in the game on a round per round basis.
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Re: Not Easy Mode Planes
« Reply #52 on: June 24, 2014, 11:40:02 PM »
There are those that many agree are easy mode, thou to me non easy mode planes are planes that fly outside your preferred performance envelope.  For example I like the turn fight, energy fight and play in the vertical in an aggressive fight pattern. For me boom and zoom type fighting is difficult and planes like the 190d, ta 152, me262, even the f4u, p51, and p47. Not to say I cant fly those planes but I tend to turn fight and well die because I'm not playing to the strengths of the airframe.
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Re: Not Easy Mode Planes
« Reply #53 on: June 25, 2014, 03:12:00 AM »
I fly the 39D a good bit  and I gotta agree with the guys about the p-40 there is nothing I can find I like about it.
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Re: Not Easy Mode Planes
« Reply #54 on: June 25, 2014, 05:30:30 AM »
I fly the 39D a good bit  and I gotta agree with the guys about the p-40 there is nothing I can find I like about it.

The P-40 is very maneuverable: turns well, rolls well and has good elevator authority.  It also has six .50 calibers, which are far more versatile and easier to use, than the wacky setup in the P-39D.


<disclaimer>  the poster in no way concedes that the P-40 is easy mode, just slow-motion fun.
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Re: Not Easy Mode Planes
« Reply #55 on: June 25, 2014, 09:13:27 AM »
The P-40 is very maneuverable: turns well, rolls well and has good elevator authority.  It also has six .50 calibers, which are far more versatile and easier to use, than the wacky setup in the P-39D.


<disclaimer>  the poster in no way concedes that the P-40 is easy mode, just slow-motion fun.
maybe I just don't spend enough time in it. the setup is easy on the 39d miss with the cannon(use the 20) miss with the fifties and use the 30's
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Re: Not Easy Mode Planes
« Reply #56 on: June 25, 2014, 09:15:38 AM »
The P-40's turning ability is poor.  It can turn fairly well, so long as it has altitude to trade for E.  Without that there are many faster planes that will out turn it.
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Re: Not Easy Mode Planes
« Reply #57 on: June 25, 2014, 07:09:18 PM »
For me it's any f4u followed by a 38. I just can't grasp the f4u. The easiest for me to handle, and what I'm most comfortable in is either the n1k, zero and my favorite, the Hellcat.  Some say the hellcat is similar to the corsair. Matter of opinion but I have to disagree... The plane I hate going up against the most, once again, corsair...
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Re: Not Easy Mode Planes
« Reply #58 on: June 25, 2014, 08:14:49 PM »
The P-40's turning ability is poor.  It can turn fairly well, so long as it has altitude to trade for E.  Without that there are many faster planes that will out turn it.

So which is it?  :)
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Re: Not Easy Mode Planes
« Reply #59 on: June 25, 2014, 08:18:50 PM »
maybe I just don't spend enough time in it. the setup is easy on the 39d miss with the cannon(use the 20) miss with the fifties and use the 30's

 :lol  I usually only hit with the 30s, too.
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