Author Topic: Phantom Admiration Society  (Read 5366 times)

Offline Nefarious

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15858
Re: Phantom Admiration Society
« Reply #45 on: July 06, 2014, 11:44:50 AM »














I have posted these photos before, they belong to a Phantom RIO by the name of "Hamfist" He was helping Verm with technical stuff on Targetwares Target:Hanoi Mod. My dad helped out a little too and they got to meet each other online and share stories. I would link to the message on the forum but it is gone.

Ironically, my dad and him were on the same cruise in the Med during Yom Kippur. My dad was with VA-65 which is one of the Squadrons Tanker Pics above. It was my dads first Cruise on the Indy, They were in Athens when Yom Kippur broke out. They left Greece in such a hurry, lots of squadron personel were left there and had to be flown back to the CV. My dad was in the Navy for 20 years, and he said it was more intense than during Desert Storm. He said it felt like the real deal, they were loading Nukes on Intruders.

Figured I would share these because they are cool and from someones collection. <S>
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

Offline Rich46yo

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7358
Re: Phantom Admiration Society
« Reply #46 on: July 06, 2014, 01:55:20 PM »

Quote
Ironically, my dad and him were on the same cruise in the Med during Yom Kippur. My dad was with VA-65 which is one of the Squadrons Tanker Pics above. It was my dads first Cruise on the Indy, They were in Athens when Yom Kippur broke out. They left Greece in such a hurry, lots of squadron personel were left there and had to be flown back to the CV. My dad was in the Navy for 20 years, and he said it was more intense than during Desert Storm. He said it felt like the real deal, they were loading Nukes on Intruders.

It was the "real deal". Two large Mediterranean fleets circling each other armed to the teeth and on trip wire. If one side fired there wouldnt be enough time to consult with higher command regarding retaliation so the fate of the world rested in the hands of two Admirals, one American and one Soviet. The only chance the Reds had was to launch everything at the USN CVs because the Soviet fleet wouldnt survive a USN air strike and SSN attack. And they knew it. Yom Kippur was even scarier then Cuba because there were players and decisions the Super Powers couldnt control.

Who knows? Maybe the presence of the 6th fleet and those air planes saved the world from catastrophe. The Israelis would have surely used nukes if they couldnt count on US resupply along with the deterrence of the 6'th fleet. And who knows what would have happened after that genie was let loose? A very scarey piece of History your dad was involved in.
"flying the aircraft of the Red Star"

Offline bozon

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6037
Re: Phantom Admiration Society
« Reply #47 on: July 06, 2014, 05:04:05 PM »
Cool pics Nefarious. F4s look so odd without the cannon. I've never seen a real one without it except for the PR version. I've read somewhere that in 73 the IAF still made more gun kills than missiles kills, though I do not have the full break down, so it could be largely due to the Mirages. A fighter without a cannon, that's just crazy...
Mosquito VI - twice the spitfire, four times the ENY.

Click!>> "So, you want to fly the wooden wonder" - <<click!
the almost incomplete and not entirely inaccurate guide to the AH Mosquito.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGOWswdzGQs

Offline Nefarious

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15858
Re: Phantom Admiration Society
« Reply #48 on: July 07, 2014, 04:03:57 PM »
Cool pics Nefarious. F4s look so odd without the cannon. I've never seen a real one without it except for the PR version. I've read somewhere that in 73 the IAF still made more gun kills than missiles kills, though I do not have the full break down, so it could be largely due to the Mirages. A fighter without a cannon, that's just crazy...

I on the other hand do not like the look of the gun nosed phantoms, it to me seems out of place.

It was the "real deal". Two large Mediterranean fleets circling each other armed to the teeth and on trip wire. If one side fired there wouldnt be enough time to consult with higher command regarding retaliation so the fate of the world rested in the hands of two Admirals, one American and one Soviet. The only chance the Reds had was to launch everything at the USN CVs because the Soviet fleet wouldnt survive a USN air strike and SSN attack. And they knew it. Yom Kippur was even scarier then Cuba because there were players and decisions the Super Powers couldnt control.

Who knows? Maybe the presence of the 6th fleet and those air planes saved the world from catastrophe. The Israelis would have surely used nukes if they couldnt count on US resupply along with the deterrence of the 6'th fleet. And who knows what would have happened after that genie was let loose? A very scarey piece of History your dad was involved in.

My dad was a young flight deck troubleshooter at the time, what worried him was the fact that the pilots and crews were carrying sidearms. The only other time he saw it being done in 20 years. Older shipmates of his were worried about all the live munitions like Rockets and CBU's that were being launched and recovered, with stories of the Forrestal and the Enterprise accidents still fresh on lots of minds. My dad says you could see Soviet ships right off the flight deck, and from what I understand the Israelis were launching mock attacks on both NATO and Soviet warships.

Craziness for sure.

There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

Offline skorpx1

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1130
Re: Phantom Admiration Society
« Reply #49 on: July 07, 2014, 04:24:59 PM »
I myself love the F4-Phantom, definitely my favorite airplane of all time.

(Warning, F4-Pronz heavy)