SAVE ACES HIGH!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cheyenn]

You may think it is smashing and a splendid combat simulator, you are welcome to your opinions as I am. To me Aces High is just a game period!!!
As for me no qualification needed either!!!!!

[FLOOB]

For me personally I found clod a waste of money. It just made me want to play AH more.

[danny76]

You may think it is smashing and a splendid combat simulator, you are welcome to your opinions as I am. To me Aces High is just a game period!!!
As for me no qualification needed either!!!!!

I was being pedantic, what i was asking for were your reasons behind your conclusion, and what you believe is wrong with the game.

[Kodiak]

I have always assumed the IL-2 games were Aces High's main competition, but I sure do hear a lot about WarThunder on this board.  The IL-2 games are what compete for my time with the MA and I think AH would gain more players than lost if it became a true WW2 game like IL-2.  I can't imagine many players leaving AH if it went to 2 sides and real maps, but a lot of IL-2 players would come on board.  The biggest puzzlement to me is the chess piece format on fantasy maps.  Its not something you tell your friends about with excitement when you first play AH, but rather something you get used to, kind of.

[Kodiak]

I was being pedantic, what i was asking for were your reasons behind your conclusion, and what you believe is wrong with the game.

Outside of FSO, Snapshot, This Day and special events you can't just log on and get the classic plane matchups of WW2 (other than a contrived fight in the DA) for one thing.  Spitfire vs P-51 is pretty goofy.  Very few mission opportunities on many nights, and when you're escorting, intercepting, or flying bombers the target is A57 not Berlin or the hundreds of other famous WW2 targets.  I play AH but it lacks the WW2 immersion many players are looking for.  And I can't imagine new players coming here looking for chess pieces over fantasy maps...that part has never made sense to me.

[PJ_Godzilla]

Hear, hear...

There's nothing I like better than an accurate matchup. The chess piece thing seems stupid to me as well.

[caldera]

Hear, hear...

There's nothing I like better than an accurate matchup. The chess piece thing seems stupid to me as well.

How stupid would this game be with 80% of players wanting to play on the Allied side in a two-sided match up?  Take a look at the plane stats every month and compare the usage of the P-51/Corsair/Spit/La-7/P-47/P-38/F6F/Yak/Typh/B-17/B-24/Lanc/A-20 with the 109/190/110/262/N1K/A6M/Ki/C.205/Ju-88/G4m/Tu2 and see what most people want to fly. 

I wonder what a two sided game would be like, but not as an "accurate" Axis v Allied game.  The open sandbox concept is what keeps my interest after all these years.

[Lusche]

There's nothing I like better than an accurate matchup.

Not really doable without a huge amount of rules & restrictions. Probably scripted missions with AI and limited player slots would work best

[Kodiak]

WW2 aviation combat sims are possible.  We rarely have balance problems in the IL-2 online games.

[Lusche]

WW2 aviation combat sims are possible.  We rarely have balance problems in the IL-2 online games.

IL-2 is an open sandbox type game with hundreds of players in the same arena?

[danny76]

WW2 aviation combat sims are possible.  We rarely have balance problems in the IL-2 online games.

And yet here you are

[Zerstorer]

And yet here you are

Non sequitur.  If someone likes hamburgers is that person required to eat at Burger King, or is permissible to also eat from Windys or McDonalds?

Just sayin' sir.   

[danny76]

Non sequitur.  If someone likes hamburgers is that person required to eat at Burger King, or is permissible to also eat from Windys or McDonalds?

Just sayin' sir.  

Of course he is, he would not however be allowed to stand in the middle of McDonalds with a Burger King advertisement

Just Saying

[Zerstorer]

Of course he is, he would not however be allowed to stand in the middle of McDonalds with a Burger King advertisement

Just Saying

I don't think he's doing that.  I'm pretty sure we (i.e. the community) have discussed the pros and cons of other WWII simulations before on the forums, as well as compared and contrasted the pros and cons of these sims with AH.  It is the later I beleive he is attempting to do, mon ami. 



On a side note:   Speaking as one who likes a good hamburger every now and then, I don't want to give the wrong impression....I don't think it is ever permissible to eat one at a McDonalds, a Windys OR a Burger King.  *blech*   

[Kodiak]

And yet here you are

I am just brainstorming on how to get folks to come here who aren't.  IL-2 is not a secret and to pretend it is would be to bury our heads in the sand.  Cliffs of Dover can support and often has 100 players on a server.  I'm sure Hitech could do the same thing on a much bigger scale.

And I'm not broadcasting a commercial...I don't like the complex engine management on the Cliffs of Dover servers, I prefer the way the planes in Aces High are set up.  Cliffs of Dover is also narrow in scope.  I really think if Hitech tried to compete in the WW2 market they would dominate it and I often wonder if they would lose many existing players with a format change...I don't think so, but then that's just my opinion.

If you also add the online IL-2 1946 players you can often find 150 IL-2 players on any given night that would be ripe to play Aces High WW2.