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Offline tuton25

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If I was king for a day....
« on: July 11, 2014, 01:26:18 AM »
1) Reduce the hanger damage score for 2,800lbs to 1,500lbs, allowing more aircraft the opportunity to take down hangers. Right now the American lineup dominates the offensive roll as they are the only planes that can take on hangers by themselves.

2) Introduce a perked ordnance system perking ords greater than 2,000lbs. This way single engine fighters cannot take down multiple hangers without a little more risk involved.

3) Reduce enemy icon range 3.0k, giving the higher ENY aircraft an opportunity to escape a fight if the situation demands it.

4) Perk all aircraft with 10 ENY or less similarly to the way tanks are perked. Most won't be afraid to risk 1-2 perks for their Pony D or LA7, but they wont be so suicidal.

5) Perk all 4 engine bombers as listed above, to cut down on bomb n' bailers/lanc-kaze

6) Allow the use personal skins. I don't know on the technical level how difficult this would be, but it shouldn't be to hard considering everyone has the option of turning off custom skins.
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Re: If I was king for a day....
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2014, 08:48:13 AM »
1) Reduce the hanger damage score for 2,800lbs to 1,500lbs, allowing more aircraft the opportunity to take down hangers. Right now the American lineup dominates the offensive roll as they are the only planes that can take on hangers by themselves.

2) Introduce a perked ordnance system perking ords greater than 2,000lbs. This way single engine fighters cannot take down multiple hangers without a little more risk involved.

3) Reduce enemy icon range 3.0k, giving the higher ENY aircraft an opportunity to escape a fight if the situation demands it.

4) Perk all aircraft with 10 ENY or less similarly to the way tanks are perked. Most won't be afraid to risk 1-2 perks for their Pony D or LA7, but they wont be so suicidal.

5) Perk all 4 engine bombers as listed above, to cut down on bomb n' bailers/lanc-kaze

6) Allow the use personal skins. I don't know on the technical level how difficult this would be, but it shouldn't be to hard considering everyone has the option of turning off custom skins.



1.  It would be nice to allow older planes to actually participate on the level that the newer planes do. However, it would make the later planes that much stronger/better. 

2. Punishes planes with a larger bomb loadout.

3. While it may sound harsh, learn to fly.  The older planes are what they are, and can kill if flown properly.  Why should I take off in an older plane, knowing that I have the disadvantage, then request a handicap so I can escape combat easier. Yet I was the fool who took off in the older plane!   Simply put, it sounds like a handicap card for older planes. If you don't know how to fly the plane, then don't use it. Or if you are learning, then be prepared to have your rudder handed to you.

4. If they don't care about their 'life' because it's free, they won't mind either if it's 1-2 perks.

5.  Punishing the bombers, and the many because the actions of the few?  Bombers are already slow, and quite vulnerable if you know what you are doing.  There are only a handful of players who can even hit an enemy plane while being attacked, and fewer still who can kill in a bomber via gunnery.   This simply puts a limit on the bombers for something that a few do.  I actually LIKE lancstukas, because the m16/wirb/osti can kill them quite quickly.

6.  I do not know HTC's stance on this, so can not make an educated opinion on it.



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Re: If I was king for a day....
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2014, 12:09:24 PM »


1.  It would be nice to allow older planes to actually participate on the level that the newer planes do. However, it would make the later planes that much stronger/better.  See number two

2. Punishes planes with a larger bomb loadout. Not really. If the ordnance itself is perked, and not the aircraft, it won't really make that much of a difference. I could take the Pony D (No cost) and x2 1,000lbs bombs (No cost) but if I wanted rockets to I would need to pay some perks....

3. While it may sound harsh, learn to fly.  The older planes are what they are, and can kill if flown properly.  Why should I take off in an older plane, knowing that I have the disadvantage, then request a handicap so I can escape combat easier. Yet I was the fool who took off in the older plane!   Simply put, it sounds like a handicap card for older planes. If you don't know how to fly the plane, then don't use it. Or if you are learning, then be prepared to have your rudder handed to you.

4. If they don't care about their 'life' because it's free, they won't mind either if it's 1-2 perks.

5.  Punishing the bombers, and the many because the actions of the few?  Bombers are already slow, and quite vulnerable if you know what you are doing.  There are only a handful of players who can even hit an enemy plane while being attacked, and fewer still who can kill in a bomber via gunnery.   This simply puts a limit on the bombers for something that a few do.  I actually LIKE lancstukas, because the m16/wirb/osti can kill them quite quickly.

6.  I do not know HTC's stance on this, so can not make an educated opinion on it.



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Re: If I was king for a day....
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2014, 04:20:39 PM »
Personal skins won't happen for a number of reasons.

First and foremost: Space. Every single skin for every single player would have to be downloaded to your computer. That's going to be a LOT of drive space (just look how much space is taken up by squad art).

Second: Overhead of loading the skins in game: Every time a new skin is in range it has to be loaded into memory on your end. Imagine a 20-plane furball where EVERYONE is flying a unique skin. Buh-bye frame rate.

Third: Cheats. Guaranteed you'll end up with people trying to make transparent skins and other tricks to give themselves an advantage, which will require HTC approve EVERY custom skin. Given the amount of work it already takes just to get the skins that ARE allowed in the game...

Fourth: Immersion. Everyone laughs about the "My Little Pony" P-51 skin, but do you REALLY want to see someone using that in the game? Aircraft skins OUGHT to be patterned on what was actually used during the war.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if HTC allowed personal skins (or at the very least squadron skins) so long as they conformed historical regulations (IE, USN/MC birds MUST be blue gray over light-gray for aircraft flying in 1942/early 1943 with the proper roundels for the period), but Points 1 and 2 guarantee it won't happen.
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Re: If I was king for a day....
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2014, 04:31:29 PM »
If you were king for a day, I would make sure not to log in for that day. :bolt:
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Re: If I was king for a day....
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2014, 05:31:59 PM »
Personal skins won't happen for a number of reasons.

First and foremost: Space. Every single skin for every single player would have to be downloaded to your computer. That's going to be a LOT of drive space (just look how much space is taken up by squad art).

Second: Overhead of loading the skins in game: Every time a new skin is in range it has to be loaded into memory on your end. Imagine a 20-plane furball where EVERYONE is flying a unique skin. Buh-bye frame rate.

Third: Cheats. Guaranteed you'll end up with people trying to make transparent skins and other tricks to give themselves an advantage, which will require HTC approve EVERY custom skin. Given the amount of work it already takes just to get the skins that ARE allowed in the game...

Fourth: Immersion. Everyone laughs about the "My Little Pony" P-51 skin, but do you REALLY want to see someone using that in the game? Aircraft skins OUGHT to be patterned on what was actually used during the war.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if HTC allowed personal skins (or at the very least squadron skins) so long as they conformed historical regulations (IE, USN/MC birds MUST be blue gray over light-gray for aircraft flying in 1942/early 1943 with the proper roundels for the period), but Points 1 and 2 guarantee it won't happen.

That's what I thought...
Would there still be issues if the custom skins were client side only (i.e. only I could see my skin)???
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Re: If I was king for a day....
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2014, 05:42:08 PM »
If I was King of AH for a day, the hangman would be busy...
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Re: If I was king for a day....
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2014, 06:06:36 PM »
That's what I thought...
Would there still be issues if the custom skins were client side only (i.e. only I could see my skin)???

What would be the point if only you could see it?
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Re: If I was king for a day....
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2014, 08:52:55 PM »
What would be the point if only you could see it?

My own enjoyment....
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Re: If I was king for a day....
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2014, 08:55:34 PM »
My own enjoyment....

do you have any idea how long it takes to make a skin?  why not just try it and come back and see how much you enjoyed it.



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Re: If I was king for a day....
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2014, 08:55:48 PM »


So if you exceed 2000 lbs of ord in a fighter you would then have to pay perks?

Hmm. I could go with that, as long as it was for fighters only.  
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Re: If I was king for a day....
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2014, 05:42:47 AM »
3) Reduce enemy icon range 3.0k, giving the higher ENY aircraft an opportunity to escape a fight if the situation demands it.

Huge disagreement from Swoop.

However......I do think the low flying icon multiplier could be set lower.  Imagine 6k icons dropping to 1k icons when flying under 200ft.


6) Allow the use personal skins. I don't know on the technical level how difficult this would be, but it shouldn't be to hard considering everyone has the option of turning off custom skins.

No.

You know that little pause you get sometimes when flying?  That's cos someone who's squadron wossname you haven't got cached has just flown into range and your system is loading the graphic file to put on their plane.  Now imagine the mess if everyone had their own homemade skin.


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Re: If I was king for a day....
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2014, 08:53:07 AM »
do you have any idea how long it takes to make a skin?  why not just try it and come back and see how much you enjoyed it.



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DO you realize that if it was a personal skin that ONLY he could see it wouldn't have to be up to the standards that our top notch skinners do?

1) Reduce the hanger damage score for 2,800lbs to 1,500lbs, allowing more aircraft the opportunity to take down hangers. Right now the American lineup dominates the offensive roll as they are the only planes that can take on hangers by themselves.

Id rather see it increased so that the US fighters couldn't take out a hanger like the other models and hopefully this brings more buffs into the action. ( it won't because they will just bring more hvy fighters increasing the horde)

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2) Introduce a perked ordnance system perking ords greater than 2,000lbs. This way single engine fighters cannot take down multiple hangers without a little more risk involved.

HTC has already said they would like to do something along these lines, but I think it was going to be for ALL ordinance.

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3) Reduce enemy icon range 3.0k, giving the higher ENY aircraft an opportunity to escape a fight if the situation demands it.

No need, just pay attention. If you do, you have ampul time to decide to engage or...... gak!.... run.

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4) Perk all aircraft with 10 ENY or less similarly to the way tanks are perked. Most won't be afraid to risk 1-2 perks for their Pony D or LA7, but they wont be so suicidal.

If you perk those it forces them into other rides, which earn perks quicker and so they now can be suicidal in those lightly perked planes again.  :rolleyes:

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5) Perk all 4 engine bombers as listed above, to cut down on bomb n' bailers/lanc-kaze

so we will see lots more low flying 2 engine bomber/attack aircraft bailing and doing the kamikaze thing

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6) Allow the use personal skins. I don't know on the technical level how difficult this would be, but it shouldn't be to hard considering everyone has the option of turning off custom skins.

It would have to be coded so that you could only "personalize" the plane you are flying for your view only. Other wise you would have people abusing the system by painting GVs florescent pink and such taking away any camouflage effects the skins do give.

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Re: If I was king for a day....
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2014, 10:10:54 AM »
DO you realize that if it was a personal skin that ONLY he could see it wouldn't have to be up to the standards that our top notch skinners do?


he mentions disabling other people's skins,  so he wants everybody to see it.




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Re: If I was king for a day....
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2014, 10:38:04 AM »
My Royal decrees for the day:


- Restore 1.5k icons to Wirbles and Ostwinds, whether moving or not

- Remove icons from all tanks - troop carriers would keep current icons

- Limit all fighters to 500 pounds or 250 kilos of bombs

- Harden ordnance bunkers to require 1000 pounds damage

- Upgrade all base ack to auto/mannable quad-mount 40mm Bofors

- Relocate towns farther from airfields and remove all ack

- More GV spawns all over the map but all spawns go to towns

- Change HQ destruction result to disabling all ack at victimized country (until resupplied)

- Put a time delay on puffy ack but increase it's accuracy: level bombers would be more easily destroyed and maneuvering fighters more survivable

- Restore 1 hour side switch limit

- Make ENY kick in faster
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