Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.

[ghi]

 Ukraine air space closed for airliners ,this map is cool;
http://www.flightradar24.com/#54.3,49.3/3?&_suid=140563706534405519975743283891

[MiloMorai]

Thanks ghi, great link

[GScholz]

Really bad year for Malaysian Airlines... 

[JOACH1M]

Really bad year for Malaysian Airlines... 

In other words very sad, RIP.

Wonder why airlines were even flirting the idea of flying over the war zone?

[Nath[BDP]]

Don't understand why they were not avoiding that area, especially when Russians are involved.

[Nath[BDP]]

Ukraine air space closed for airliners ,this map is cool;
http://www.flightradar24.com/#54.3,49.3/3?&_suid=140563706534405519975743283891

my inner asperger is going insane rite now

[Karnak]

Don't understand why they were not avoiding that area, especially when Russians are involved.

My understanding from reading elsewhere is that the warnings were for lower altitudes than the 33k they were flying at.  I know they are going to be second guessed massively at this point, but apparently per the warnings their flight plan was fine.

[artik]

The problem they didn't closed airspace correctly.

They should close the airspace over Russia as well at areas close to Ukrainian border. It meaningless to close an airspace over Western and Central part of Ukraine but some Russian airspace (where you see many planes flying) can be very dangerous because of proximity to Ukrainian border or more correctly the the "rebels" controlled area.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

The problem they didn't closed airspace correctly.

They should close the airspace over Russia as well at areas close to Ukrainian border. It meaningless to close an airspace over Western and Central part of Ukraine but some Russian airspace (where you see many planes flying) can be very dangerous because of proximity to Ukrainian border or more correctly the the "rebels" controlled area.

Hah, flying over Russian airspace has always been safe. Worked for KAL 007 after all.

[Karnak]

[FLOOB]

The seperatists also shot down a plane at 21,000 feet. And I read somewhere that journalists have reported seeing seperatists in possession of Buk SAMs.

[Karnak]

The seperatists also shot down a plane at 21,000 feet. And I read somewhere that journalists have reported seeing seperatists in possession of Buk SAMs.

They are also apparently scrubbing social media of their former boastful claims of having those weapons now that MH17 has gone down.

[FTJR]

They are also apparently scrubbing social media of their former boastful claims of having those weapons now that MH17 has gone down.

Which would explain why went I went to replay a recording I heard this morning, it is nowhere to be found.

I read the separatists overran a military base sometime ago which had these weapons, my question is that given these weapons are sophisticated who are the crews?

[Scherf]

Which would explain why went I went to replay a recording I heard this morning, it is nowhere to be found.

I read the separatists overran a military base sometime ago which had these weapons, my question is that given these weapons are sophisticated who are the crews?

Prolly Russki ex-servicemen who have either gone or been sent across the border to support the separatists.

I've no doubt they've done a runner back across to Mother Russia (along with the flight recorders); I also have no doubt they'll each be quietly awarded "one behind the ear" and end up as crow food.

[cpxxx]

from RT;
President Putin's plane might have been the target for Ukrainian missile ; 
http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/

So the propaganda starts from the ever reliable Russian state controlled media.

The Ukrainians didn't shoot down the plane.

Here's a link to Aviation Herald on the subject. Note the description of the Russian cover up that has already started even if it's too late.

http://avherald.com/h?article=47770f9d&opt=0

Putin is to blame for this. He encourages and supplies the terrorists. He is a dangerous man.