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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2014, 07:40:11 AM »
Well that settles it, or vacation to Kuala Lumpur will be by ship!
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2014, 07:47:29 AM »
I'm dubious about how much control the russian state is able to wield over it's own forces. From local ploliceman to top tier anti terrorist units to fsb intelligence units, they will all work for anyone who can pay their wages, because the state can't.
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2014, 08:06:41 AM »
So the propaganda starts from the ever reliable Russian state controlled media. :rolleyes:

The Ukrainians didn't shoot down the plane.

Here's a link to Aviation Herald on the subject. Note the description of the Russian cover up that has already started even if it's too late.

http://avherald.com/h?article=47770f9d&opt=0

Putin is to blame for this. He encourages and supplies the terrorists. He is a dangerous man.
Putin is dangerous, is not only him, they  want to change the world , end the dollar domination; Eastern Ukraine is just like a small volcano spilling from larger geo politic economic lava chamber boiling under the surface ;   Last week ,in the shadow of over publicized  Soccer World Cup, maybe  the real economic game changer world cup, BRICS vs IMF was held in Fortaleza, Brazil  BRICS summit ; I believe this could affect all of us in next years;

""BRICS nations agree to create own development bank

New $100B bank, seen to counter IMF and World Bank, will be headquartered in China  "

   more here
 http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/brics-nations-agree-to-create-own-development-bank-1.2707903


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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2014, 08:53:13 AM »
This should be interesting, hang on fellers!
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2014, 11:03:22 AM »
I wonder when organizations and companies will realize that it is not wise for everyone to take the same plane. 100 of the world's foremost HIV scientists died on MH17... A tragedy that will have enormous consequences for untold thousands of people...
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2014, 12:36:44 PM »
Funny you should say that Gscholz. My company only allows a max of 10 employees on a single flight for just this reason. It's displayed in big red letters on my inter-company travel site, and  there is a system in place to prevent it from happening. All arrangements must be made thru the site, and once a specific flight reaches
10 Employees a soft warnng is displayed and locks you out of being able to get a seat on it
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2014, 01:17:47 PM »
Funny you should say that Gscholz. My company only allows a max of 10 employees on a single flight for just this reason. It's displayed in big red letters on my inter-company travel site, and  there is a system in place to prevent it from happening. All arrangements must be made thru the site, and once a specific flight reaches
10 Employees a soft warnng is displayed and locks you out of being able to get a seat on it
I've never considered until now, but I'd be extremely surprised if my employer doesn't do the same. (Then again, for all I know, we may have the same employer  ;)  )
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2014, 01:57:43 PM »
I wonder when organizations and companies will realize that it is not wise for everyone to take the same plane. 100 of the world's foremost HIV scientists died on MH17... A tragedy that will have enormous consequences for untold thousands of people...

Not something I would have even considered but thats an excellent point!

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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2014, 03:57:21 PM »
Way back in the mid '80s when I worked for BNR, they had a restriction on how many employees could travel on one flight. To long ago to remember the number.

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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2014, 04:30:07 PM »
I wonder when organizations and companies will realize that it is not wise for everyone to take the same plane. 100 of the world's foremost HIV scientists died on MH17... A tragedy that will have enormous consequences for untold thousands of people...

This is why my immediate family will never be on the same flight all at once. We may not be super important in the grand scheme of the planet (ie curing cancer scientist family or anything), but my old man always said it was silly because what happens if the flight goes down, then we're all gone at once.

For family vacations we usually split between 2 and sometimes even 3 different flights.

I believe the saying goes, "Never put all your eggs in one basket..." 

... my sympathies to those affected by this horrible event.  :pray

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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2014, 06:04:08 PM »
Rebel leader implies it was the missing 777.
http://news.yahoo.com/rebel-leader-gives-bizarre-account-plane-crash-182256709.html
Seriously? Who do they think was flying? Rod Serling?
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2014, 07:13:54 PM »
Good to hear that companies on your side of the pond are smart about air travel. Over here I fear it is another story.
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #43 on: July 18, 2014, 07:23:51 PM »
They are now saying 80 children were aboard.  :mad:  They say no one can secure the crash site to even start collecting bodies because of those stupid wanna-be soldiers.  How about we we actually USE the 82nd Airborne Division to take & hold it, instead of decades of practice jumps & never using them.
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #44 on: July 18, 2014, 08:39:42 PM »
Because of reasons... Mostly the 10th Spetsnaz Brigade, 22nd Guards Spetsnaz Brigade, 346th Spetsnaz Brigade, and 25th Spetsnaz Regiment that are deployed not far away. And the fact that a war with Russia is bad mmkay.
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